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What is a very good P- mount cartridge to use?
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#1 Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2017 7:29:16 PM(UTC)
 
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I have a friend that's giving me a Technics Linear tracking table.
 
My main issue with this is the P-Mount type of cartridge that your forced to use with them.
 
Is there actually a good Moving Coil cartridge for these P-Mount tables?
 
I'm looking for a cartridge that will match my SL-Q2's Denon DL-103 L.O.M.C. that I love so much. Cool
 
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#2 Posted: Saturday, April 15, 2017 9:53:35 PM(UTC)
 
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I have a SL-10 with an EPS 310MC that I think is a great cartridge. Hard to find nowdays though.
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#3 Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 4:16:12 AM(UTC)
 
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BrianD;301164 wrote:
I have a SL-10 with an EPS 310MC that I think is a great cartridge. Hard to find nowdays though.


I have the same cartridge, needing a retip! It's my fav cartridge for linear tracking TT, I have an old SL-7 turntable I recently pulled out of storage! Currently have an old Stanton p mount on it! I am always looking for good p mount cartridges, they don't make cartridges like the 310mc anymore! That was the best technics cartridge IMHO!


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#4 Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 4:23:35 PM(UTC)
 
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When Bill D did the upgrade on my C1 I had a Technics TT with P mount arm and he reccomended a LP Gear T4P series V. It's a low cost cart with a very nice sound.
  Frequency response: 15Hz-27kHz
- Output voltage @ 1kHz, 5cm/sec: 5mV
- Channel separation @ 1kHz/10kHz: 29/18dB
- Channel balance: 1.25dB
- Vertical tracking force: 1.0-1.5 g
- Stylus shape: Bi-radial, 0.3 x 0.7 mil
- Cantilever: Thin-wall tube
- Recommended load impedance: 47k ohms
- Recommended load capacitance: 100-200 pf
- Weight: 6 g
- Dimensions (mm): 34l x 10w x 17h
- Stylus replacement: LP Gear ATNSERIESV
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#5 Posted: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:20:43 PM(UTC)
 
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I went down this path before. I do not know of anyone manufacturing MC carts for P mounts anymore... I think that the last was Dynavector. I do use a Technics 310MC in my SL-10 as well as the cart that oldtexasdog noted in my SL-7. Both carts sound very good to me.
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#6 Posted: Monday, April 17, 2017 4:07:38 PM(UTC)
 
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I just lost a bid on a 310mc on fleabay! I been looking for a reasonable priced one! I'll eventually send my 310mc to Kevin to see if it can be re-tipped and a new cantilever!

Keep your eyes open on eBay! It's not a moving coil but I am happy with my Pickering/Stanton tl-3

Barry

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#7 Posted: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 3:44:04 PM(UTC)
 
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Not a MC, but the Grado Gold 1 Prestige is supposed to be a pretty good cart as well. I think if you're looking for a P-Mount MC, you're going to have to search used or NOS to get anything good.
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#8 Posted: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 6:07:00 PM(UTC)
 
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Is this table really worth even using or should I just sell it on Ebay?
 
I just remember how badly I wanted a Linear tracking table when they came out in 1982 or so. But the fact that most use the P-Mount cartridges bothers me. I would love a Phase Linear or Yamaha Linear tracker but they are way too pricey. 
 
I really like my Technics SL-Q2 that I own two of and a SL-Q3 that also works.
 
The Denon DL-103 MC cartridge is excellent with the SL-Q2 and I'm wondering if I'm just addicted to turntables? Party!
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Carver C-1 preamp, Carver TX-2 tuner, hafler DH 500 amplifier, Onkyo C-7030 & (X10-D Tube Buffer Up-Grade by Kevin P. to a C-7030t), Onkyo Integra DX-C606 Muti-Disk CD player, Sony SA-CD DVP-NS775V, Technics SL-Q2 with Denon DL-103 M.C. Adcom ACE 515 (Line Filter and component timer) Definitive Studio Monitor 450's on Steel Definitive Stands, SVS 12" 300 watt powered sub, Sennhiser HD 598 headphones, Realistic APM 200 2 watt to 200 watt LED amp output monitor

Home theater system:

Yamaha 5.1 to 7.1 receiver HTR-6240, Yamaha BD-S671, Definitive Studio Monitor 450's, Front & Back, Definitive Bi-Pole 1.2x side surrounds, Definitive 2002 center channel & SVS 12" powered sub, Audio Source AMP -100 used for 7.1 surround sound with Yamaha receiver.

Not used backup equipment:
Denon 910 DVD/CD player, Technics SL-Q2, Shure M97xE MM & Sumoko Black Pearl MM cartridges, Denon AVR-2800 Receiver/Preamp

Special Thanks To:
Kevin P. (Up-graded my Onkyo C-7030 by adding a X-10D tube buffer at his cost), Charles H.(Gifted me a Sony SA-CD player), and the very nice guy that gifted me the Sumoko Black Pearl, sorry I don't have your name anymore.
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Yep! Sounds like you got it bad
Just get the best and never look back. It's cheeper in the long run.
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I run a Pioneer PL-1000A.  I bought it new back in the day.  It is the same TT as the Phase Linear.  It uses a standard headshell. 
 
 
 
 
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