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  1. Old time Apogee fan, looking for old Apogee dudes. I still have my Rich Murry / Graz Scintillas. Packed away, moving soon to a new home with a room to set them up in. Need amps. Been researching older Sunfire amps. Talk about confusing. 300x2, 600x2, signed, not signed, signature, blah blah. Are the guts all the same?! I remember as a kid (early 80's - sorry geezers) going to Fedco in Ontario, CA to their "AV Demo room" where they had carver gear and Ohm Walsh speakers!