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Hi from the UK!

 

I don't have any Carver stuff yet but I'm working on it. As mentioned in my other post I'm looking in to Carver power amps to power my Linn Isobarik speakers.

Anyway my current set up is (hopefully) pictured:

- Magnum amp (no longer there)

- NAD 3130

- Denon Tu-260L

- Marantz CD63se

- Rega Planar 3 with an RB300

- KEF 104ab (ignore the B&W 601s, they are not hooked up)

 

Also pictured are the Linn Isobariks I've just been given. Need to refurbish the cabinets and replace all FOUR tweeters! The result of an amp clipping...
Also pictured is a litle DIY mini sound system I have just built for a bit of of.

 

Anyway thanks for having me, i plan to learn a lot. Looks like I will have to add pictures in seperate replies due to size.

 

Cheers!

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Linn Isobarik project...

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Portable Mini sound system. Powered using a 12-24v ebay amp so it can be powered using a golf cart battery...

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Howdy CBolt18 and welcome to Carversite; you'll find friendly people and some of the best techs on the planet! Kick back and relax for a while....And thanks for the pics; we love 'em!!!

 

 

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Beautiful set-up, @Cbolt18!   I don't have much experience, yet, with the Carver amps, but I do note there are a fair number of people here who are driving somewhat ill-behaved (with respect to ohms - very well behaved with respect to sound) electostatic speakers with them.  That strikes me as boding well for driving your Linn's.  There are certainly plenty of people here who can offer sage advice on the right ones to do the job well.

 

Sorry about the tweeters in the Linn's but if that got them to you for free, then it's well worth the cost to fix.  I can easily see how they got that way, and why you're looking for a far more tolerant amp to feed them.

 

Your idea of a "little DIY system" is very impressive, indeed.  You say it's portable - where are you planning to run that?

 

Thanks for joining in, and don't forget to enjoy the music.

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@DrummerJuice the speakers are not bi-ampable in their current configuration, they are an early model and have internal cross overs. A popular choice is to remove the xo all together and go ‘active’. That obviously requires a lot (expensive) amplification, although apparently really takes the speakers to the next level. 

 

@Brian_at_HHH I’ve just ordered the tweeters which has set me back a fair bit and I’m going to have a look at the caps in the crossovers once I’ve finished the cabinets.

It sounds like The TFM-45 will be able to cope. Problem is getting a decent one to the UK. Another problem I’ve got is having a listening space worthy of the Linns, but I’m working on that as well. 

 

The portable system ended up pretty heavy so probably won’t get out much. Idea was to take it on a small trolly thing to garden/park parties or events. 

 

Thanks for the welcome everyone!

 

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A Sunfire or 2 would do the trick nicely! :)

18 minutes ago, Cbolt18 said:

 

 

@Brian_at_HHH I’ve just ordered the tweeters which has set me back a fair bit and I’m going to have a look at the caps in the crossovers once I’ve finished the cabinets.

It sounds like The TFM-45 will be able to cope. Problem is getting a decent one to the UK. Another problem I’ve got is having a listening space worthy of the Linns, but I’m working on that as well. 

 

The portable system ended up pretty heavy so probably won’t get out much. Idea was to take it on a small trolly thing to garden/park parties or events. 

 

Thanks for the welcome everyone!

 

Here's one for a decent price! https://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/649467798-carver-tfm-45/

 

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For the folks suggesting amps here, they may be great, but remember the power difference, as Cbolt8 noted - I'm not an expert, but a quick glance suggests that it's not trivial to switch them to 220V - perhaps on the inside, but not on outside.  Using an inexpensive converter is not likely to be a happy match for something with the power thirst of a '45.  The cost to deal with that and the shipping are likely to make any North American bargains not such a great deal.  Cbolt18 is wise to be looking closer to home for a suitable find.

 

Cbolt18, you definitely put the money where it makes the most sense, by far.  The tweeter will restore the speakers sound and value, and will definitely justify their cost.  You may not have a big space to turn them loose in, but the real plus of great speakers i that they can also do well without hitting 120Db+.  🙂  Those are going to sound fantastic when you get it all together. 

 

Those (trans-)portable speakers may not be really light, but they are certainly beautiful - my compliments on your woodworking skills.  I'm sure the sound is on par with the looks, given the care and talent you obviously have.  

 

Keep your eyes open and I'm sure an ideal amp will pop up shortly.  There are lots of people ditching great systems to switch to surround sound,instead.  Their loss, but our gain.

 

Good luck on the quest, and I'm sure the folks, here will help watch.

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5 hours ago, Brian_at_HHH said:

For the folks suggesting amps here, they may be great, but remember the power difference, as Cbolt8 noted - I'm not an expert, but a quick glance suggests that it's not trivial to switch them to 220V - perhaps on the inside, but not on outside.  Using an inexpensive converter is not likely to be a happy match for something with the power thirst of a '45.  The cost to deal with that and the shipping are likely to make any North American bargains not such a great deal.  Cbolt18 is wise to be looking closer to home for a suitable find.

 

Cbolt18, you definitely put the money where it makes the most sense, by far.  The tweeter will restore the speakers sound and value, and will definitely justify their cost.  You may not have a big space to turn them loose in, but the real plus of great speakers i that they can also do well without hitting 120Db+.  🙂  Those are going to sound fantastic when you get it all together. 

 

Those (trans-)portable speakers may not be really light, but they are certainly beautiful - my compliments on your woodworking skills.  I'm sure the sound is on par with the looks, given the care and talent you obviously have.  

 

Keep your eyes open and I'm sure an ideal amp will pop up shortly.  There are lots of people ditching great systems to switch to surround sound,instead.  Their loss, but our gain.

 

Good luck on the quest, and I'm sure the folks, here will help watch.

For shits and giggles (a horrible disorder for those afflicted) ;), I checked craigslist in London for amplifiers. WOW! you Brits do not mess around. Some high quality (and priced) stuff!

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@DrummerJuicejust take at look at what @Cbolt18has as "free" speakers, and you should know what to expect.  :-s

 

By the time you factor in cost of living, you have to wonder if most Londoner's are mortgaging their meals.  Where I used to work, we had an office outside London, and I've had a number of friends in the UK, and I always wondered at how the normal people make ends meet, there.  I'm not sure where in the UK CBolt18 is, but even the "cheap" places are anything but.  One massive plus though - no mosquitoes!!!  B|  Ours need clearance from Air Traffic Control.

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@Brian_at_HHH yep I’m going to have to find a 220v unit, there’s actually one in Spain on eBay at the moment for €450 which isn’t too bad, just don’t know the condition. And I I mentioned earlier somewhere, reviving them might be a bit of an issue here. 

 

Thanks for for the compliments on the woodwork, took me a while haha. 

 

Living in London is certainly expensive, the wages tend to represent that though. I actually live in Manchester which is in the North West. It’s quite a lot cheaper (and better). The speakers were passed to me by a close neighbour, we got talking and it turns out he’s been looking for a new home for them for a while. He was just pleased that I was going to try and resurrect them and enjoy them for another 30 years or so. He actually had quite a few offers on them and despite me trying to give him money he wouldn’t take any! True gent. 

 

I guess we we have a few good English Hifi brands over here but they do keep their money well. I can’t justify spending thousands though, hence not going down the naim route. I prefer eating and having hot water haha. 

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Thanks Daddyjt. The box has the cross overs and amp in. Three way cross over at 500/3000 if I remember correctly. I’ll put a photo up. 

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Sorry forgot to add, I like all types of music really. Apart from the pop garbage that’s on the mainstream radio. 

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Thanks for letting us know what the (amp) box was.  I was wondering, but as I can be too curious for my own good, I thought I should behave for a change.  😇

 

I've done enough woodworking to truly appreciate what those speakers, and amp box took.  Very nice.

 

A definite tip of the hat to your neighbour _ I can see why he passed them to you he knew they would be restored and would sing, again.  There are definitely some incredible brands.  My main speakers are Mission's, showing my partiality to British design (though, they were not built there, and are well below the stature of your Linn's.

 

You seem to have more than a passing talent on the technical side - any thoughts of doing the amp revival,yourself?  There are lots of people here who are very technically adept (Yours Truly decidedly excepted!) who, I'm sure would be very happy to help and guide.  I've seen how well they can guide others to find and fix issues. 

 

Regardless, good luck finding jut the right amp, and I hope it really puts some wonderful life into those Linn's.

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I think I got lucky with the Neighbour to be honest haha. 

 

Ive only ever had British loudspeakers and amps, I’d like to get my hands on a few American brands. I’d really like to hear some JBLs. 

 

Id be a bit worried about tackling an amp myself, I guess it depends if I could trouble shoot the issue myself and if it wasn’t too complicated to fix. These Carver amps seem especially intimidating. Something to consider. 

 

What at do you think to this amp...

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F283166762484

 

ive spoken to the guy, he can speak some English. He says it’s working as it should but he doesn’t know if it’s been repaired or recapped or anything. It says ‘Internally wired by MOSTER CABLES’ on the back. Was that a typical partnership? 

 

I’ve put up some internal photos on the other topic ‘purchase help’. 

Also don’t think price is too bad?

 

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I have to agree on the JBLs - I've never heard any and I'd like to hear what they are like, too.  There are quite a few of the more "well known" brands that I haven't had the chance to hear.  Where I am, in Canada, the speakers I've encountered, have not quite the same mix that I see most of the folks, here, listening to.  I've usually encountered either Japanese speakers, or Canadian ones (e.g. Paradigm, PSB, Totem).  There seems to be a fair number of people on the group with either Polk or Klipsch, some with older units like Advents, and a decent number with various electrostatics (the Carver ALS' of course) and planars.  I'm actually quite curious about the Magnapans, myself.  If it weren't for the fact that they would quickly become wonderfully expensive cat scratchers in my house, I'd probably be more serious as they seem to be a great price and there seem to be plenty available used near me.

 

For the amp, I did a quick look online and the "Internally wired by MONSTER CABLES" does seem to be on all the pictures of the backs of the TFM-45s that I found, so it does seem to be normal, and not indicating anything after factory.

 

I will leave it to others, here, to comment on what they think of the state of the amp.  To me it looks good - both of the meter lights are even working, and I don't see a lot of scratch marks around the screws, that would suggest a lot of poking about inside.  But I am not the right person to comment here - there are others far better at that who I'm sure will offer their thoughts.  Likewise, I can't really say on the price - I "think" it's a decent price but not knowing the going rate in Europe, and not being familiar with the 45, I'll defer to others.

 

As to tackling things yourself, I think it depends on what you are doing.  A full on cap-job is likely not a good starting point, but I know there are plenty of people here who have done just that.  Tracking down a specific problem, if one occurs, is a whole different story.  The techs, here, can guide you on what to test, and where not to put your finger.  That said, I'm a really bad example to offer advice.  While I may secretly think of someday changing some caps in some older equipment I have, it won't be until I do a LOT more practise with a soldering iron.  I've taken the "safe" route, and my equipment is currently taking a holiday in Utah, to be redone by someone who KNOWS what he's doing.  :)

 

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