Zoom 372 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I visit a movie theater 3-4 times a year. And last night I missed the 8:45 Star Trek, so I waited for the next at 9:30, which happened to be an IMAX theater. I'm glad I missed the 8:45. As a footnote, I really enjoy an audio system that has the ability to handle any transient peaks without touching the volume, so you know what is supposed to be quiet is quiet, what is supposed to be crashing and loud is indeed so. And an IMAX theater has it. Now, I am not really sure if the extra space contributes to softening a horn, which sometimes is not the best for a HT system. But the mid, upper mid, and mid-bass sounded effortless, clean, clear, quick, accurate. Even with the inherent distortion that comes with explosions, crashing noises, etc. I've browsed a little and found there have been some changes made to cabinet design et. al in the newer theaters. Holy COW that IMAX sound rocks. I tried to be critical, but found very little wanting. Any one else heard one lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit 369 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I saw the new Star Trek & Iron Man (3D) movies in IMAX. AMAZING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom 372 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Here's a few stats, for those interested. And a decent thread from the AVS forum. http://www.avsforum.com/t/560830/imax-theater-bass Pictures from my IMAX including some of the amp racks. http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/wareview.php?id=1682&category=1 The Imax system is basically a 15 - 20,000 watt 6.1 system. Specifications of the surround sound system differ between venues but this is a pretty accurate description of what goes into the speaker system of an Imax. The six audio channels are fed to a 4-way JBL speaker array. Every section is equipped with JBL models no: 2404 H (Ultra-High Frequency), 2445 J (Wide Range), 2123 H (High Power Low Frequency), and 2245 H (Medium Efficiency Extended Bass). The Subwoofers is a specially built enclosure containing between 8 - 16 JBL model no. 2242H 18 inch subwoofers They are located to give strong directional effects and placed as follows: Channel 1 Left rear (theater), Channel 2 Left screen, Channel 3 Center screen, Channel 4 Right screen, Channel 5 Right rear (theater), Channel 6 Top of screen. http://www.jblpro.com/pub/obsolete/2123.pdf Midrange Transducer http://www.jblpro.com/pages/components/2245h.htm Low Frequency http://www.jblpro.com/pub/components/2445J.pdf Compression Driver http://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2404.pdf Ultra HF Transducer A word about enclosures from Sonics Associates, the firm that assembles the IMAX A/V. Lynn McCroskey, President and CEO of Sonics Associates, a subsidiary of Toronto's IMAX Corporation said: "In most installations, we use eight sub-bass loudspeakers, each in a 16-cubic-foot enclosure," he says. "The enclosures include a filtering labyrinth we designed that physically traps the higher-frequency components that can otherwise cause overtones and distortion." Labyrinth cabinets are tougher to build as they are more exotic than ported or bandpass design, but possibly one of the secrets to IMAX great bass is this enclosure type and also the use of 18" drivers as so common in concert pro audio. From 'hometheaterguy' at AVS.... A Canadian Imax theater used a crane with a 175 foot boom to lift the huge sheet screen and the 800LB audio rack in their theater! Most Imax theaters use a "circular surround EX" design. Some use DDP digital processors. The Ontario Place Imax theater uses 12 Bryston power amps. The Wells Fargo Cinedome Imax theater uses 12 Cinemacoustic power amps. The Woodridge Imax theater uses 17 QSC power amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibernator69 47 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Thx for rundown. You forgot about Gene's K(appa)-MAX 11.1 system. With 4 silver 7ts and an array of TFM-45s and 55s he must be over 10,000 watts. Would love to know how he fits 8 16 cu ft sub enclosures in that room though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom 372 Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Thx for rundown. You forgot about Gene's K(appa)-MAX 11.1 system. With 4 silver 7ts and an array of TFM-45s and 55s he must be over 10,000 watts. Would love to know how he fits 8 16 cu ft sub enclosures in that room though! Agreed. I think he refers to it as an 11.4! And does it the right way with no horns etc. so it can be turned down and still sound excellent. A system like that is very much more flexible in that regard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene C 1,745 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Thx for rundown. You forgot about Gene's K(appa)-MAX 11.1 system. With 4 silver 7ts and an array of TFM-45s and 55s he must be over 10,000 watts. Would love to know how he fits 8 16 cu ft sub enclosures in that room though! Thanks. Trial and error. Only 4 subs though. 2 Martin Logans up front, Infinity sub behind the sectional and Sunfire Signature off to the side in back of room. The Back subs are more for movies when I want to bring the house down. But everything is tuned perfectly for that room. The wife did say our living room sounds better when watching movies than the theatres, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papajoe 220 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 My son saw the new Star Trek in a theater that was equipped with the new Dolby ATMOS systems. It uses 64 discrete tracks played through 64 speakers placed through out the theater. He said that it was awesome but very loud. Not sure they weren't just pumping the sound that day. Although, I would think that when they set the levels they have to take into account the sound absorbtion of all the bodies in a theater full of people, so when it is half full that might be a factor in the sound level. His friend, who also went with him, said that he enjoyed it just fine with his earplugs in. LOL Papajoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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