I have enjoyed this thread as well and I thank all of you for your input. I don't consider myself a "true audiophile" in the purest sense, but I love listening to music and enjoy the gear I have to listen to it with. To me, the greatest thing about this hobby, if one calls it that, is the limitless possibilities of making music sound like it "should" when it was recorded. Reproducing music in our homes and cars is a lot of work and pleasure, with or without alcohol of any kind! I call these therapy sessions, where usually myself, Mr. Morgan, and Mr. Carver get together for a meeting in the evening hours and listen to loud music.....grin. But the greatest part of this is all the components you can obtain to build your system the way you want it, and make it sound like you want it. Each component does it own part, and can be purchased and tried and tweaked and repaired until we obtain the sound we like to hear. The cleanest sound possible within our pocketbooks I believe is everyone's goal, and that is a personalized opinion, each different from our own. What I have learned is that we can respect each others opinions and all enjoy the music, however we like to enjoy it, and learn things from each other that makes our lives and systems better.........grin