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Just got back from Vancouver and I listened to a few box speakers but when I sat down with the Magnepan 1.6's I just could not resist they have a great sound to my ear so I bought them. The guys selling them bought them new and recovered them to keep the cats off but then didn't play them much so they were like new still had the box. I will try them with my m500t when I get it back and see the results. Also bought a Systemdec II turntable from the turntable store on the North Shore but when I got it home it had a hum in the motor so its going back. My C1 and m550t are in the shop should be ready in the next couple of weeks then I will get things set up and have a listen. I will send some pic's when its ready. Thanks for all the feed back.

 

On a completely different topic I went to see "Big Sugar" at the Commodore and they were bad. I get it they want to be loud but whoever was on the mixing board not very good the sound was distorted couldn't hear the vocals bottom end was really muddy and it was really really loud. We left before it was over one of the worst shows I have ever been to. Disappointed as I really like the Commodore.

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I am going to try out the m500t and see how it goes if I need to upgrade will let you guys know. I really appreciate the offers and if things don't work out I we can talk about options to try. Thanks

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Congrats on the Maggie's, @Lance!   Glad you're getting the C1 and M500t reworked.  😀

 

It's  a shame so many bands just focus on the loud rather than the good sound.  Far too many soundmen just don't get it  and can't do a decent job as a result.  When they do, the results are fantastic.  Big Sugar should have been a great show - sorry it got blown out.

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Congrats on the Maggies! (were they the ones on Criagslist?) Bummer about the show.. Sound men are worth their weight in gold! Stage volume and room volume can be very different, and it can be hard to control. Having a trusted set of ears out in the audience is the way to go!

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10 hours ago, Lance said:

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On a completely different topic I went to see "Big Sugar" at the Commodore and they were bad. I get it they want to be loud but whoever was on the mixing board not very good the sound was distorted couldn't hear the vocals bottom end was really muddy and it was really really loud. We left before it was over one of the worst shows I have ever been to. Disappointed as I really like the Commodore.

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The old adage..., "Those who can't, teach." has a parallel adage...

 

In live music, "Those who can't (play), end up on the soundboard..."

 

We have a couple of venue's, one at a place called "Even Flow" in Geneva IL.  The venue won't let the band run "the venue's" sound board, so some bartender, or whoever, runs it, ruins the entire show.  MANY complain, but the owner doesn't get it either..., he's just counting admission $$.  Often, you look around, and see the sound board guy making out, or jackin' jaw with some drunk scantily-clad groupie behind the board, completely not watching.  Vocals are missed, solo's are not presented, and every slider is "turned up to 11."

 

Sounds like others know this story.

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I have a recorded/digitized copy of the contents, but I've never had the chance to try setting up y system using it. My room is not suited to that sort of setup, so it would likely be an exercise n frustration for me.  

 

I know others, here certainly have gone through the full-tilt setup, some with great success, others not as much.

 

In my case, I seem to ear the SH fill the room with sound (versus off) without aiming for perfection - maybe I'm not hearing 100% of the effect, but to me it's wonderful. ~^

 

If you give it a try, let us know your results.

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I use Paradigm monitor 9 series with my M500t. 91db / 1 watt they sound good with any of my amps........grin. Congrats on the Maggie’s, I have never heard them.

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You mentioned a tech in Cumberland that works on Carver do you have his contact info. My C-1 left channel is down not sure why it was working well and then it just quit. Looks like it will need some professional help. Thanks

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14 hours ago, Lance said:

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You mentioned a tech in Cumberland that works on Carver do you have his contact info. My C-1 left channel is down not sure why it was working well and then it just quit. Looks like it will need some professional help. Thanks

 

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I had my C1 refreshed and moded and my tfm-35.  Sound great I am using a pair of Wharfedale Heritage Lintons, combo sounds great nice warm sound solid bass.

 Anyway took better part of 6 months to get my gear back, but was worth it. Good luck.

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On 11/14/2019 at 5:00 AM, AndrewJohn said:

 

The old adage..., "Those who can't, teach." has a parallel adage...

 

In live music, "Those who can't (play), end up on the soundboard..."

 

We have a couple of venue's, one at a place called "Even Flow" in Geneva IL.  The venue won't let the band run "the venue's" sound board, so some bartender, or whoever, runs it, ruins the entire show.  MANY complain, but the owner doesn't get it either..., he's just counting admission $$.  Often, you look around, and see the sound board guy making out, or jackin' jaw with some drunk scantily-clad groupie behind the board, completely not watching.  Vocals are missed, solo's are not presented, and every slider is "turned up to 11."

 

Sounds like others know this story.

The Cheap Trick concert we went to at a casino was that way, too loud for the room. Couldn’t hear the vocals until half way through the show. Good sound is important first, then loud.......grin

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On 11/16/2019 at 4:29 PM, Dadvw said:

I use Paradigm monitor 9 series with my M500t. 91db / 1 watt they sound good with any of my amps........grin. Congrats on the Maggie’s, I have never heard them.

 

I just put my v4's up for sale on Craigslist (along with a center and surrounds).

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Sounds like fun too me man!!   I have a set of Magneplanar 2.7qr  on a M 1.0T..     I switch between 2 preamps, the carver C-1 ,and an ONKYO P-301.   Sounds stellar :).  I did recap the amp .  Cheers

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The Maggies can be a bit light on bass and power hungry. I've never found a pair I've cared to keep. 

 

I can Highly recommend vintage JBL, Klipsch, A/D/S/ and Polk speakers with the M-500t.

 

My first Carver system was an MXR-130, M-500t and Polk Monitor 10's.

 

I still keep JBL- L19,  A/D/S/ L730 and Klipsch Heresy speakers handy.

 

Currently I use Tekton Pendragon speakers in my main system, which I also highly recommend. 

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2 minutes ago, DrummerJuice said:

I hear tubes and Maggies are a good combo, but don't they require more power?

 

Yes, but those people listen at lower levels. I like it LOUD! Always have. If you like moderate volume, Maggies and tubes could be very nice.

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5 minutes ago, kve777 said:

Yes, but those people listen at lower levels. I like it LOUD! Always have. If you like moderate volume, Maggies and tubes could be very nice.

 

I've always been intrigued with di-poles in general and Maggies in particular. I know Maggies can throw a tough impedance curve. I think my M-500t could handle it, but what about my unmodded M-1.0t and M-1.5t?

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Thanks for all the advice at this point I am running the Maggies on a Quad 405 which is working well but its a bit noisy not through the speakers just at the amp. I have run the m500t as well but it did get a bit warm and I had my C-1 stacked and I think it affected some soldering I lost the left channel so its in the shop for a tune up. I am thinking of adding a couple of subs to boost up the bottom end. Still enjoying the search for the right mix. Thanks again    

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17 hours ago, DrummerJuice said:

 

I've always been intrigued with di-poles in general and Maggies in particular. I know Maggies can throw a tough impedance curve. I think my M-500t could handle it, but what about my unmodded M-1.0t and M-1.5t?

 

Both the M-1.0t and M-1.5t can tolerate lower impedance loads, for longer, than the M-500t; IMO the 1.0 is favored

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Yea man I can blow the fuses on my 2.7 maggies with a recapped stock M1.0t.  The amp does get plenty warm, but hey thats what happens when you drive em hard :). Like I said it sounds awesome :) 

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