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Come on guys. This isn't a high frequency issue. It's how does it sound?? If you can hear the difference in speakers, amplifiers or whatever, then you're as qualified as the next guy to listen for grunge differences. Good for you Steve! Trying things, experimenting, building, buying...it's the way we can get so much more out of music. I don't want just have music playing...I want to reach out and grab me, slap me across the face, put goosebumps on my arms and make my hair feel like it's standing on end because something sounds so real, that you're right there in the room with the original event!!! Look forward to your impressions Steve. Your burner should do it about as well as it can be done!

Thank you Gary! Appreciate that! And your my favorite (and only) Rabbi!! [-o< I'm simply fortunate enough to be able to hang around some incredible guys around here! What amazing luck to be able to pick the brains of the truly talented...some eventually rubs off sooner or later. I've seen days at work (less productive perhaps) when 30 or 40 emails have went back and forth about something. Today for example, one of the guys had spent the entire night listening to different rectifier types in a tube DIY preamp. He reported this morning on his impressions of the differences between various rectifiers. Built on octal sockets, he can interchange in just a minute between everything from tube rectifiers to high speed, soft recovery SS diodes. I don't know the exact count, but certainly I saw over a dozen different styles. This is all being done to decide what type of diodes he'd like to have in the pre, which he has designs on turning into a commercial product. Exploring the audio world is truly a marvelous challenge! Those moments that we reach goosebump territory make it all worth while. And some of the laughs with guys are also really, really great moments!

Your right of course FrankieD!! ...and howw U doin?!! I was being an SOB smarty with that one word answer. || Trying to get a rise...please forgive me!!!! ) I've posted, in the past, several papers about digital mechanisms and how they are effected by distortions as they read. I don't think it'd be too much of a streatch to say that it's pretty well understood that sonics are impacted by how much a player has to chase the data. That's why there are so many little tweeks out there that probably mostly make at little tiny bit of difference. Trueing up the CD edge, cutting a specific slant, the green coating, the anti wobble/dampening rings. But there are also things that the higher end manufacturers do inside of player mechanisms too with dampening, darkening and so on. If you want to know more, I'd suggest going through a few of the Stereophile reviews of the better players. Down in articles, you can lots of times find little nuggets of information. The black CD thing has been around for some time. Not a new find. My personal experience with black CD's was I couldn't tell. I have a little analysis program that reads a burned disk and counts errors. It's stunning when you see huge numbers and you can't help but think about all the comments you see about "bit perfect"! In the case of my particular burner, the black ones (Memorex I think, sorry Steve) repeatedly came up with a sizeably worse error count than the same speed, same material burn on regular disks. That could be just a reflection of my particular burner. When I have a chance, I'll find that analysis program, do a few burns and post some results. It's darn interesting. And maybe we could find that program somewhere for others to download and play with too... So I guess I'd say that from book learning side it'd seem possible it could have a positive impact, but it didn't happen that I could tell. But I don't discount that some have had more clear gains. Maybe better players than mine.... Mark

Yes!d:)b

Glad you guys liked it!! =d> I've enjoyed since 8-track days making mix tapes...guess I still do! The point of this was a couple of things. One was to celebrate the get together obviously. For those of you that didn't get to go, the cover shot was from the deck of one of the cabins...actually from the first CF. Another purpose was to provide a common music we could talk about amongst us for comparisons. And it was to put together mostly pretty well recorded music that's of generally pretty high quality. Secondarily, as far as the music, was to provide some cuts that would stress a system in different ways. As you noticed with the Desire cut! Also, audio get togethers provide a way to sample some different artists and music that we might get exposed to otherwise. I've found more good music that way! (That's why I included the label info, so you could go find them yourself if you want to hear more.) And some fun guys to be around too!! :-s I've still got the original covers I made for this and can upload them somewhere, if that makes for nicer print outs. I'll send those to you directly or something Rich. I can't send today since...ahhh...I'm on the road at an audio get together!! =d> Including some music I'm not familiar with. Better go listen..... Mark

OK. Then I'll just drop a vote into the "Other" category. I expect to be lonely there!! Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person left around that wants to listen to ALL the music recorded. As my wife's niece kept saying at Christmas time..."That's soooo....OLD SCHOOL!"

Hey Rich, What about including in the poll the only important one....WAVE! =;