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You know what I think would be awesome is short video review from Bob Carver. Get him in front of a camera with one of these amplifiers and let him give his pitch. I have to admit the short video of him telling a small crowd that the 275 was one of his best designs was the tipping point for me when I made my initial purchase.

Nice Celica! I had a '76 decades ago fun little car

Welcome! You have a couple of very nice amps, some of Carver's best work I think. Curious to hear about the rest of your system(s) we like pictures

Yes, once you get started it can be impossible to stop! Welcome to the forum, nice selection of speakers- we love to see pictures

Welcome to the forum! Have you considered one of the newer Carver tube amps? They sound excellent with Klipsch speakers.

It's a real shame if the 275 cannot continue on in some form as it really is a wonderful little amp and lets face it a lot of people simply cannot afford to wet their feet with a $5k amplifier.

So who is building these amps?

It is a very difficult task too many variables like room acoustics, equipment matching, type of music, how loud you play and of course personal taste. It does get me that almost every single review seems to be positive and the unit being reviewed is almost always a "must have." I went through too many reviews to count when buying headphones recently before I decided to do my own in home trials very few online reviews matched up with what I experienced personally.

The Receivers? I personally prefer the original still have a couple in use. The TGR-3 was built in China after Bob Carver sold the company to Elan. I found the newer models to be a bit more black or neutral sounding where the older units seem to have a touch more flavor not by a lot but noticeable. All in all they are very similar and both decent units.

A guy turned me on to the Hospital grade cords awhile back as a cheap alternative to the fancy cables, the plugs are tight fitting and seem to be good quality. Other generic cords can be found online for about what it costs to ship them. Factory Sunfire cords are a 14ga 2-prong but a 3-prong works just fine. https://www.ebay.com/itm/325455731917?hash=item4bc6ac5ccd:g:~JIAAOSwRJJjknKo&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0DLe4ohlMddNeiZ%2FYNiH7%2FOwT8QP2sz5FcS%2FQ0i5l%2FyidllsHGKm8bY8X9uzF8K3nnctt6GWsk%2FsdrNKyHJAv%2Bw6OeNfIf0%2BzyLxfBOYoqnCRTQVu00WWANpoY6aDwjF7bp6jfMiDbsECGVF3ut%2FYzBLRlloGnHdCAA8yykzAyW%2FTO7WGfAEs29fvHSWZBHweEoDnhI2plAnkH68Q%2Fr2r652wLeMISnKJftpyMcLc0UNF1t9gtPmThCLaUzy0X%2FBf70qFytYzk%2Fj%2BDqI9hC%2BKq0%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR5zJ0M_5YQ

The Sunfire remotes are pretty much the same TG-II through TG-5 which include the first 3 receivers I believe the IV & 5 have a couple pro logic buttons that the earlier ones don't have but all basic functions and controls are the same. The very top one in the picture above is the correct remote and will work on both units, once you have a working remote you can buy a universal and clone / copy it pretty easily.

I know for a fact they can deliver that power one channel at a time seen it with my own eyes many times at Bill Flannery's on his test bench. As for all channels driven? Don't think that's physically possible- I'm sure there's an upper limit on total output power that gets divided amongst all channels not sure what it is on those amps. Bill once told me the Sunfire Ultimate Receivers maxed out at around 575 watts total output no matter how you slice it; roughly 290x2 or 85x7 I'm sure the amplifiers are probably the same way.

Very cool, thanks for sharing! I just saved the full playlist to listen to on the main stereo later today:

Not sure about your ability to sell others can chime in on that as to value physical and working condition are going to be big variables also if you have the original box and manual that helps. Clean it up, plug it in and test it, take some pictures and report back if you can. If its clean and works as it should I would think $500 would be a good starting point?

I have been using the KT-120's since they've arrived-- they run considerably cooler than the 34's do and my AC unit has a hard time keeping up during these hot summer days. First thing I noticed when I received the 25 was that voices and certain guitars seem to be pushed forward compared to the 120's and the 34's seem to be just a tad lighter in the bass. Overall balance is different, I like both too. That being said almost everything is different in my system now (new DAC, Pre and speakers) and I'm dealing with a broken back so haven't been able to do much right now, part of the reason I've been online so much over the last month. Once my back is a little better and temps drop a bit I plan on playing with the stereo some more.

Intrigued by this statement right here-- curious if you have a number for the 275 or BM-25 for comparison?

Some attribute depth of soundstage and holographic imaging to the even order harmonics in tube gear, what happens when you eliminate that? That's my only real criticism of my Black Magic 20 amplifier, the original one from 10+ years ago, while it has a large, very wide soundstage and a nice, warm-ish tone it lacks the depth of the newer 275 and BM 25. Some reviewers call it "new" tube sound vs "old" tube sound newer being more solid-state like.

I totally understand that and agree but that does not change the fact that the 275 was rated to output 75 watts x2, 20hz to 20khz-- are you suggesting that the 275 can deliver that amount of power when connected to a loudspeaker playing music? If not then that published spec was bogus and rightly called out and the major source of negative press. Again not trying to be disrespectful or hurtful here thanks.

You know the way I see it is (and please forgive me if this sounds too critical) you guys were caught with your pants down, you have egg on your face from this disastrous 275 review and really the only person / people to blame are the ones who came up with the 75 watts 20hz-20khz spec-- had the amp been correctly advertised at 75 watts at 1khz (which the resistor test proved) this review would not have created the fuss it has. I really don't see the logic in bashing the test itself as Carver was not singled out or the only one subjected to this type of testing all other manufacturers have to go through the same test. All you can do is move forward hopefully learn from this experience know that everything you say and do will be carefully watched and scrutinized, there's nothing that can be done about the past and pretending to be a victim here is not helping your cause. The rules are the same for everybody, the 275 did not meet published specs nor was it supposed to whoever decided to advertise the amp that way is the one to blame, at least in my mind. Again, hopefully this is not taken the wrong way I love Carver products and yes that includes the 275 amplifier and I'll likely be one of the first buyers of the 285 amplifier when it becomes available I have not lost faith in the brand and I'm sure most Carver fans have not either.

If you want to get out in front of these clowns with future or current products post your own measurements. I've watched Bill Flannery test several Sunfire amps right in front of me for power output per channel and distortion they always exceeded the factory rating. Back when I was into car audio MTX power amplifiers came with a hand written test sheet with actual measurements from each amp seems easy enough each amp is tested for quality anyway right?

Welcome aboard! The TFM-45 is a great amplifier and is what initially got me hooked on the Carver sound. My late uncle purchased a full Carver rack set with Klipsch forte speakers new from Magnolia hi-fi and when I first heard it my jaw hit the floor unbelievable sound loud and crystal clear, great gear. After he passed away I took the amp to Rita's and had it completely gone through told her to replace everything and had Bob Carver sign it in memory to my cousin and he still uses it today. Post often and post pictures everyone loves pictures; gear, speakers, bands, girls, cars, funny meme's whatever you're into.