ZappaPatton

1 hour ago, Yamacarver said:

That's an interesting tidbit, I was thinking of getting some brushed stainless outlet covers. The problem I have with an upside down outlet is  that molded plugs with a right angle point the wire up instead of down and may fall out easier.

 

I think what people here are referring to is the third pin on the IEC receptacle mounted on the amplifier. Apparently some are mounted up and some are mounted down and this would switch the polarity of the other two pins as presented to the person wiring the chassis. 

I've never seen one but from looking at the pictures I get the impression that a two prong IEC receptacle would be compatible with either a two or three conductor cord.

Whereas the reverse would not be possible. 

1 hour ago, Yamacarver said:

That's an interesting tidbit, I was thinking of getting some brushed stainless outlet covers. The problem I have with an upside down outlet is  that molded plugs with a right angle point the wire up instead of down and may fall out easier.

 

I think what people here are referring to is the third pin on the IEC receptacle mounted on the amplifier. Apparently some are mounted up and some are mounted down and this would switch the polarity of the other two pins as presented to the person wiring the chassis. 

I've never seen one but from looking at the pictures I get the impression that a two prong IEC receptacle would be compatible with either a two or three conductor cord.

Whereas the reverse would not be possible. 

You are exactly right, that is what would happen with an IEC socket.

On 1/21/2022 at 10:13 AM, SteveFord said:

There's no rhyme or reason as to how they mount those outlets: prong on bottom, prong on top

Prong on top came from industrial installations with metal receptacle covers.

Should the cover plate screw vibrate out causing the metal plate to fall and guillotine the prongs of an electrical cord, a prong down install would be catastrophic, whereas a prong up installation would be of no significance. 

In residential applications with decorative stainless, copper, bronze, ect. duplex receptacle covers the receptacles should be inverted to prong up orientation.

On 1/21/2022 at 8:31 AM, B-Man said:

I agree with your EG thought process but unfortunately UL, CE and others disagree - 

Skil has made 15 amp, 120 volt metal cased UL certified circular saws for indoor/ outdoor use with no ground prong for decades.

There are countless metal cased non-earth grounded Underwriters Laboratories certified tools and appliances.

My apologies but I am confused at how Underwriters Laboratories disagrees with @Nahash5150?

13 minutes ago, 4krow said:

Yah, and those semi-autos that have no kick, and are completely accurate at amazing distances. 

 

 Did you know, that if someone is shooting at you, all that is required for you to be safe is to tip over a lounge table to hide behind?

This will be super useful as I've always wondered what make and model 30 round revolvers everyone uses.

On 12/17/2021 at 12:33 AM, Sk1Bum said:

 

Yes.  

 

It's a matter of personal preference. I prefer my BillD C-1 with an M1.0t mkII opt002 amp and my cone speakers. I prefer my Bonzoro modded 4000t with an M500t mkII and my Martin Logan ESLs. 

 

ymmv.

But if you were going to power a pair of Polk SDA 2 (later to be upgraded to Pendragons) would you want a C-1 or a 4000T (would send either to Nelion) and would you want an M500T mkII (might go to Nelion for 002) or would you want two monoblocked M1.0T mkII 002?

Im'ma bout to start letting some cash go Friday so trying to make some decisions. I know I can buy and sell to try other combos but would like to come out swing'n.

Yes!

Thank you, just arranged to go pick them up Friday! Hope he doesn't sell em before then.

The ebayer who sold me the BA VR-M90 sent me the wrong phone number after I paid him and hasn't replied in days. 😳

Much appreciated jinx there @kve777Guess I'll be shopping for Tekton Pendragons. Looks like they come in 2, 4 or 8 Ohms. With two M1.0T driving each speaker in mono, do I go with the 4 or 8 Ohm speaker? Or for another $300 the 2 Ohm. Do you have any experience with the $200/ $300 Upgrade Package?

I had a feeling that joining this site could cause monetary shortages. 

Not adviseable for 350 watt speakers?

Funny you mention M1.0T, there is a pair for sale locally. I read they are 200 watts into 8ohm or 1000 watts mono. 

Would 1000 watts mono into the Boston Acoustics VR-M90s (rated for 50-350) be ok if you kept the volume down or is that what heats amps up?

I could later send them to NelionAudio.com and have two 460 watts amps. Nice to have a back up or add more toys.

Thoughts on TFM-45 vs 2 M1.0T

Thank you @Brian_at_HHH,

Are there other characteristic differences between those three amps? All I've read is that the 45 is more tube sounding than the 55 but I haven't been able to find descriptions of how the M500T MkII compares to the 45 & 55.

I've searched all three on this and other sites but haven't found what differentiates them aside from technical stats. 

1 hour ago, Charlie said:

Greetings @ZappaPatton We're glad you found us!!!

 

Thank you Charlie,

I somehow developed an emotional and yet logical attachment to my Carver and couldn't understand why I was the only person I knew who had one. 

It's refreshing to learn there are others with this disease... I mean gift.

1 hour ago, Sk1Bum said:

Hello ZappaPatton, and welcome to thecarversite.com. We're glad you're hear. There is a lot of information here, much technical know how, and a pretty good bunch of folks that are happy to help.

 

I don't think you'll go wrong with any of your amp choices. I have a few M-500t mkII amps, and they are amazing. I have a few M1.0t mkII opt 002 amps, and they are amazing. I don't have any of the TFM amps, but those that do say they're amazing too. Mostly, it will come down to what works best for you with your speakers and preamp. If you're like many of us, you'll end up with a few different amps too.  

Once you get to Novice status, please consider uploading some pics of your gear in the Members Systems area. We all like pics of all kinds of audio gear.

In the meantime, kick your shoes off, turn up the music, and welcome aboard.

 

 

Thank you, glad to be here!

What a fun site you guys have made here. 

At 16 years old I began saving for my first car by bagging groceries 5 days a week and working for a jeweler doing silver lost-wax casting. Unfortunately for what ever lucky car was going to be my first, I truly heard and felt music for the first time, yes my ear cherry was popped by an HR-772.

Needless to say my first car would have to wait as I ventured alone into the audiophile forrest. The store pulled a new HR-772 and a Techniques 5 disc drawer CD player from the back as I debated a serious speaker conundrum.

I wanted the Boston Acoustics T1030s but my budget took a massive hit from the shockingly priced Monster Cable and replacing all my tapes with CDs. I didn't have enough money left to purchase the Carver power amp so for the first time in my young consumer career I discovered compromising and settling. The HR-772 had 150 wpc and the BA T830 were rated at.... 150 wpc. 

As if it were all recorded, I can clearly recall feeling like a mad scientist bringing life to a machine the world had yet seen as I connected components, routed cords, twist locked cables... it was exhilarating immaging how it would sound. Would windows break, animals flee, neighbors call the police?

For some reason I just sat back and stared at this glossy black representation of all the hours I had worked, time away from friends, missed parties and I knew before I even pressed the remote's power button I had made the right decision. 

I've been accused of hitting clearance sales at the $5.00 word store but I honestly cannot put into words the joy, the pride, the amazement I felt when I heard what had to be the closest any 16 year old had ever come to replicate being center stage at a Zappa concert. 

That system could go from Zappa to Mr. Bungle to Sinatra to Willie Nelson to Metallica to Prince and aside from some struggling with low ends of Metallica's One that I've heard every other car or home system miss, the system impressed me each and every time I hit play. 

That system cost me all of my saving and a few months later, my virginity. 😀

I am looking forward to bring the HR-772 back out. Next week a pair of VR-M90s will be coming home and the search for that elusive power amp continues. I've narrowed it down to a TFM-45 as I think that "tubey" sound might be perfect for all the older music I like but the TFM-55 and M500T Mkii are convoluting my decision. 

Any suggestions or advise?