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Counterfeit Bob Carver products being sold outside Bob Carver LLC.. No warranty coverage, no product liability coverage. BEWARE!


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On 2/18/2024 at 9:07 AM, Ar9Jim said:

Thanks. This is not under our warranty. 

 

The seller is EJ Sarmento dba wyred4sound in Atascadero, CA

 

They also lifted the display pics from bobcarvercorp.com

 

Is a cease-and-desist order in order?

 

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16 hours ago, Sk1Bum said:

 

That's what I thought too, and it begs the next question:

 

If they are new from you, why do they have the Carver logo on them?

 

Sounds like a good follow-up question? 😉 

 

hell, why not see how low he'll go on the price, offer him a low-ball ... , indicating "since these are not really Bob Carver Amps..., and no 10 year warranty..., how about $950? 

 

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This is the traceability issue with having many past licensed owners and the reason the Black Magic products, we hoped to continue, must end. 

 

The Crimson 275s were built in 3 locations. I have record keeping from none of them. Printed serial number stickers are easy to duplicate. The liability and warranty coverage became uncalculatable. Our warranties are long and iron clad. Many have expired by now. The products have proven very reliable. 

 

With Bob Carver LLC. and BC Audio LLC. founded by Bob, Peggy, Lerma and myself, we know our customers directly and we know our liabilities. We continue to update Crimson 275s from past companies at no charge in good faith. We offer service through our authorized service centers for Carver designed products going back to 1970.

 

The RAM 285 is our first product. It will take us forward from here. 

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5 hours ago, Ar9Jim said:

This is the traceability issue with having many past licensed owners and the reason the Black Magic products, we hoped to continue, must end. The RAM 285 is our first product. It will take us forward from here. 

 

 It's a real shame if the 275 cannot continue on in some form as it really is a wonderful little amp and lets face it a lot of people simply cannot afford to wet their feet with a $5k amplifier. 

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12 minutes ago, jjptkd said:

 

 It's a real shame if the 275 cannot continue on in some form as it really is a wonderful little amp and lets face it a lot of people simply cannot afford to wet their feet with a $5k amplifier. 

Agree. It will be back eventually. The Black Magic 25 is very nice as well. Impressive that economical 19lb amps can sound that good. 

 

 

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