BobTFM35

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So far I'm enjoying the new look of things. Thanks!!

The 4000 that I was using was returned to my son after I got back my Sunfire TGIV from restoration. I did like the feature on the 4000 for the AC PU especially when button 19 is engaged. This is the Correlation-Automatic Threshold system that self-adjusts. Everything rolled into one unit which was kind of nice. I can see why you are leaning toward the 4000. With the Sunfire back in the system I introduced a PL1000 Series II to take care of my Vinyl and tape collection just as @Dennis47 suggested and has worked just fine. I don’t use the built-in phono preamps in the Sunfire because of the distance of my TT from the Sunfire. I employed a Bellari PA550 3-Channel Phono Preamp into a switch box. The Cassette decks also go into that same switch box and then the output from the switch box goes into the PL 1000 II before going to the Sunfire. Sounds like much but it works just fine. For my case this is how I incorporated the feature that I liked in the 4000 into the Sunfire. Not everyone will like this system but for me it’s how I blended the old with the new, or not so new. As @AndrewJohn pointed out there is a distinct advantage of having proper external “Carver Amps” for the surround mode when set up. For one thing you can mix and match amps as they are acquired and placed into your system. For my current system I have a similar arrangement in that I have a dedicated amp for each of the five speakers. Two 35 and three 15’s. I ventured down my road a little different than someone else. I kind of like separate units that just do one job and hopefully do it well. With my present equipment, and if I did not have a preamp, I would lean toward the 4000t. But then again if a good 4000 crossed my path I would be hard pressed to resist it, saying this will work just fine in the “D” system that I can build upon. In the end no matter what you choose, you will enjoy the music that it produces.

@RobThat's what we are talking about!! Perfect addition for a 4000t along with a nice TFM55X that's for sale.

@740carver Very Interesting Question, and this response is only focused on the original question of which 4000 to buy. For a few months I was able to listen to the handy work, and the magic it produced when Nelion restored a very early version of the 4000. I just wish that I had spent the time to read the manual in detail to find out what the full capabilities were. Download the two manuals that are available on this site if you haven’t done it already. The 4000 has the Time Delay; Ambience Reproduction System, whereas the 4000t has what the manual calls a Digital Time Lens. The Time Delay; Ambience Reproduction System, has 20-watt amp(s) built in that can power “small speakers” scattered around your room. The explanation of this offering in the 4000 covers about 5 pages starting on page 24 of the 4000 manual. A special note on top left of page 27 of the 4000 manual said that the delay switch range was changed from 35/50 to 16/25 ms for better sonic performance. I would note this when looking at different candidates. The 4000t's Digital Time Lens is explained 0n page 13 of the 4000t manual. I would also take the time to look at page 4 of the 4000 manual and page 4 of the 4000t in particular the explanations of buttons 22, 26, 27, 28, and 29. I get the feeling that the 4000t “Digital Time Lens” was designed around what sounds like were the shortcomings of the digital reproduction of Analog material. And the internal amps were taken out to allow room for this new circuitry (Only speculation on my part). With the internal amp(s) taken out this allows for the addition of more Carver amps to help drive this feature. So, which one to choose? Door 1 or Door2? My experience was with the 4000 and I enjoyed every minute of listening in just the two-speaker mode. I can "only assume" that the 4000t will be as good if not better. Your choice but let Nelion @Nahash5150do his magic and restore it to better than new condition. Ask about having the phono amps, time delay, auto correlator and sonic holography circuits tuned and calibrated. Money well spent in my opinion. Hope this helps.

I think it’s safe to say that genetics did have something to do with our collecting Carver gear @Brian_at_HHH. It all started with the C-1 and was hooked when the TFM35 came home. I figured that I might as well get all the critical parts (Amps) done at around the same time so as not to stress any one part of the system. The stamp collection is gone, now it’s down to how well I did with my numismatology. The 15's and the 6 will ship on Tuesday and hope to have them on Thursday. Thanks for the welcome.

…. started out with Dynaco gear and slowly accumulated the below items that I presently have. My son (ChrisTFM35) is also a member of this community and a big fan of all things Carver. He has a collection of Carver, Phase Linear, and Sunfire gear. He also recently gifted me some of the items below. Upon my son's suggestion I packed up seven pieces of my gear to get in various restoration queues. He then loaned me his Nelion Audio restored Carver C-4000 to tide me over. The combination of the restored Carver C-4000 from @Nahash5150 and a welcomed addition and nicely restored TFM15CB from @itchitch kept me captive in my basement for “a long while”. So even b4 posting this I benefited from being a silent member of this community. I enjoyed this combination. I have since reintroduced two restored TFM35’s back into the mix along with a PL 1000 Series II. The last three pieces of the puzzle (Items 12, 13 and 14) were in the capable hands of Nelion and now they are on their way home. When the three 15’s hook up with the two 35’s I’m sure to develop some new kind of affliction on top of the OCCD, like OCMWD. Bob P.S. Pictures? My current gear: 1. Sunfire Theater Grand IV (Just back from being restored) 2. Phase Linear 1000 Series II (Just back from being restored) 3. Philips AF877 Turntable 4. Marantz CD 6000 OSE 5. Bellari PA550 Phono Preamp (Gift from my son) 6. Pioneer Cassette Deck (Gift from my son) 7. Sony Blue Ray Player (Gift from my son) 8. Schitt Modi 3+ (Gift from my son) 9. Carver TFM35 (A previous addition from my son and back from being restored) 10. Carver TFM35 (Back from being restored) 11. Carver TFM15CB (from @itchitch, and a daily worker) 12. Carver TFM15CB (returning home from a restoration with Nelion) 13. Carver TFM15CB (returning home from a restoration with Nelion) 14. Carver TFM6 (returning home from a restoration with Nelion, into the Living Room system) 15. Marantz AV600 (restored and in Living room system waiting on the 6 to return home) 16. Marantz DP870 (in Living room system) 17. Lexicon CP3+ (feeling lonely at the moment)