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Once again, you can pencil Charlie and I in for Cabin 9. Looking forward to seeing the return of the Cabin 2 crew and all the rest who weren't able to make it last year. They were all missed.
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Comparing system changes. Whats your favorite music test tracks.
martin1970 replied to Ar9Jim's topic in Media
Carversite Reference Disk download 1.3 gb -
Who knew there were so many? You can always ctrl-f and type in rock or prog or pop or whatever. Wondering how the locations of things relate. Who knew there were bands closer to Floyd than Waters and Gilmour?
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Every Noise At Once Description It's a giant map of virtually every musical genre imaginable. "The point of the map ... is an attempt – however uneven, idiosyncratic, and incomplete – to embrace this new state of the world, in which nearly all of humanityʼs recorded music is streamable or downloadable, and give you a way to find out what you donʼt know you donʼt know. Click any genre in the map and youʼll hear what we think is a representative song. These arenʼt always ideal, but theyʼre close. Click the » next to a genre for a similarly-clickable audio-map of the artists weʼve extrapolated for it. Hit “scan” at the top of any genre page, and youʼll take a randomized car radiostyle journey through that genre. Hit “scan” at the top of the main map and your car will careen wildly around the entire planet."
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I like Jazz but need some help with buying some please........
martin1970 replied to stevenlevel's topic in Music
As a totally non-jazz guy that got switched onto it by the Jazzman, my vote goes to Kind of Blue Cafe Blue But God, seems a crime to leave out Diana Krall You're right this is difficult! -
Great video in that link: Just chillin' with Page listenin' to it on vinyl while he explains how they made it. It was fun again.
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A forensic musicologist discusses Stairway vs Taurus vs Other Stuff Listen Here: 4 min 42 sec
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Did that my first year. Who knew bunkbeds could be that comfortable? Hope you make it again this year.
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Watching it now here There was a girl that came over to my house after school every day and made me play that damn video while she danced around the living room. Forgot all about that until today. Sad to see another piece of youth gone. RIP Prince.
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Joe Satriani-- MTV front & center-- homage to Les Paul..
martin1970 replied to Ar9Jim's topic in Music
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Been trying to put my finger on it, too. Could it be Is There Anybody Out There? from about 1:24? This part kind of reminds me of it. Still thinking there might be something else in The Wall that's closer.
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I loved me some Led Zep as a teenager. Still, they plagiarized the hell out of many blues greats and they've lost many lawsuits as a result. It was only a matter of time until this thing with Stairway and Spirit finally went to court. They were on tour with Spirit and had to have heard it. It's great that they brought this music to a wider audience. I'll give them that. Full article here
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Yeah, the only way it could be worse is if: Front door to the left of the couch. Wall furnace in back left corner =hotter than the surface of the sun in the back 40 of the living room in the winter. Oh yeah, and another door behind the right speaker to a screened porch that has no door to the outside.
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Read the part number on this invoice and compare it to the part number on this crossover. Yeah, did lots and lots of that early on. Here is one set of curves showing exactly that. Ever since I went 100% digital, it's not so simple to do certain things in Room EQ Wizard because there's no way to do a reference loopback. It's a one-way digital chain now.
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Not able to do a diagram ATM from cellphone but the pic in this thread shows everything in the room other than the couch (where i took the pic from)and coffee table. Front half of the room carpeted. Back half not. Bare walls. Huge window left open to dining front right. Acoustically worst room imaginable. Well, except for every other room in the house. Every room has 11'2" as the short dimension. Yay 1950s!
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Very astute observations. You are correct. I've not gone into detail on what he suggested because I haven't asked him if it's OK to discuss and I don't really want to bug him without first trying his suggestions. Since you mentioned the kappas.... Why doesn't anyone try separating those five paralled circuits in the mid-tweeter section of the crossover? Seems silly to try to drive all that with one amp channel. It's no wonder they're amp killers!
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I started with an active crossover and two manual parametrics. Then I moved up to a pair of digital multiprocessors. Finally, I upgraded to 4 later model dsp units. Three of them are 2x6 units and one is a 2x8 unit. Wiring and routing the signal processing was never an issue. Hell, here's nine pages on just trying to time align the damned things. And here's an earlier iteration of my notch filtering in DSP from four years ago. That biamping thread BillD did is pretty much the bible on how to work with these speakers - a must-read for all Amazing owners. Moved these things around for years: toe in, toe out, laser pointers, tape measures, carpet, no carpet, Cardas rules, etc. At the end of the day, I believe some room shapes and sizes simply do not work with Amazings. In my case, 11'2" x 25' is a disaster for these speakers. I thought the sidewall interactions would be irrelevant with dipoles, given their figure 8 dispersion. It turns out that they just won't image AT ALL in a narrow room. There are only 3 locations in the soundstage. Left ribbon, right ribbon, center. As soon as I replaced them with another speaker, BAM! Great sound. The thing that is just so astonishing (and why I chose to do this thread) is just how effective they are as room treatments. Am I the only one that thinks that is just nuts? As far as trying to get the Amazings to sound good going forward, I've got a couple of things yet to try. One of these days, I'm going to cut the slots Also, I talked to Bob about them a bit at Carverfest this year and he made a few suggestions involving some passive crossover elements and tweaking in DSP. I've got so many other audio projects I need to finish before then though. Still have to build a third pair of Carverfest speakers, recap a couple of M1.0ts, build a dipole sub enclosure, finish a Carverfest amp from 5 years ago, a balanced BillD C-1 mod that's been 90% for a couple of years, etc, etc.
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That makes sense. Heck, could they also be resonating sympathetically? It's utterly astonishing to me that they sound so abysmally bad in this room - yet, they make other speakers sound great. Maybe they're possessed. I need to finish my CF speakers. I'm curious what THEY sound like with the wtf Amazings back.
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Initially, I built my entire system around a set of Carver Amazings (plat upgraded originals) And it sounded like - well, it sounded like shit. So, I did the BillD & Reese biamping mod. Bought the active crossovers and parametrics. Marginally better, but still sounded like - well, not like shit anymore. Let's say ass. It sounded like ass. OK, upgraded the signal chain so basically straight digital right up to the Sunfires then into the Amazings. Better still, but not much. Let's call the sound solidly 'meh' Brought home a set of Dahlquist DQ-8s. Crossed the Amazings into them from about 6000 Hz up. OK, now we're getting somewhere - crisp clear highs. Couldn't crank it without blowing fuses, but wow, so much better-sounding at normal levels. Next came the woofers. Bought a set of 4 Acoustic Elegance IB15 woofers with the intention of building something but never did. Just stuck them on the floor, crossed them in at about 80Hz and WOW! the bass was spectacular. At this point, you know, ten grand or so into this, I realize that I'm trying to get blood from a stone here. The Amazings just suck in my living room. Disconnected the Amazings but left them in place. Took out the DQ-8s. Put in a set of DQ-10s from 200 Hz up using the existing IB15 subwoofers. It was a revelation! Imaging. Dynamics. Clarity. In short - Audio magic! So you know... WTF, right? The plan then becomes, let's bring the whole mess to Carverfest 2015 and see if someone there can figure out what the hell is going on. I give Rabbit a call and he agrees that we can try to dial in the crossovers to get these things sounding good. As it turns out, there's too damned much else to do at Carverfest to waste time dicking with active crossovers. So, they ended up crammed into the corner in Cabin 9 and went for a pointless 10 hour round trip to North Carolina. The DQ-10s and the rest of the system sounded pretty good at Carverfest, but not nearly as good as in my living room. After Carverfest, I didn't feel like dragging the heavy damned Amazings all the way into the living room. Hooked up the rest of the system and it sounded just like it did at Carverfest. In other words, the bass was a bit thin. Imaging wasn't really there like it had been - soundstage was collapsed. Now what? Jeez- Well, today, I finally got tired of tripping over the Amazings and put them back in the living room. Didn't hook them up, of course. Just put them behind the DQ-10s like before Carverfest. Put on some music, and - VOILA! Imaging was back. Bass was back. Sound is spectacular again. What in the hell is going on here? Have I just stumbled onto the greatest room treatment in history? Wha? Why? Anybody have a clue?
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Carverfest 2015 Sonorous Speaker Tech Support
martin1970 replied to Nahash5150's topic in Loudspeaker repair
I know it's a weird question, but exactly which holes are they? __________ | | | * * | | * * | | * * | | * * | | * * | | * * | |__________| -
Wow, that's really cool. I'm sure his wife loves it! Bruce Swedien: Recording Michael Jackson Legendary engineer on Thriller "one of the deleterious side-effects of tape-based multitracking: that repeated playback of the [master] tape during the overdubbing and production process would progressively dull the transients of previous recorded tracks." "So what I would do would be to record the rhythm section on a 24 track tape, then take that tape and put it away and wouldn't play it again until the final mix. And holy cow what a difference that made! It was just incredible."
