Why does vinyl sound better?

[snow 240]

 

 

Yeah; even though his music was mostly just about pussy (nothing wrong with that of course!* :dd ), been noticing that it is also GREAT MUSIC. A lot of the stuff is very complex musically. Wonder how much (if any?) of the actual music he wrote or even the lyrics? I'm not an Elvis expert....

 

*for example, my old "standby" Neil Young, probably only about 50% of his music is about pussy! :dd

I like neil young also, one thing I have noticed is that he attempts to put out high quality SACD albums while I believe most artists are in it for the bucks a few actually care about the quality and it shows.

 

 

 

REGARDS SNOW

[Balok 1,667]

 

 

 

Yeah; even though his music was mostly just about pussy (nothing wrong with that of course!* :dd ), been noticing that it is also GREAT MUSIC. A lot of the stuff is very complex musically. Wonder how much (if any?) of the actual music he wrote or even the lyrics? I'm not an Elvis expert....

 

*for example, my old "standby" Neil Young, probably only about 50% of his music is about pussy! :dd

I like neil young also, one thing I have noticed is that he attempts to put out high quality SACD albums while I believe most artists are in it for the bucks a few actually care about the quality and it shows.

 

 

 

REGARDS SNOW

 

Finally..........Something in this thread that I can understand.

[SteveFord 1,119]

Just curious what makes you think Vinyl sounds better?

REGARDS SNOW

 

Sorry, I don't think I ever answered this and don't know if I can effectively put it into words.

If I could plunk you down in the magic chair and play an album for you and then put on a CD of the same recording you'd see (or hear, rather) what I mean.

There is a warmth, depth and feeling of realism to the album that the CD approximates but can't match.

It might be the medium, the engineering or the playback equipment - probably a combination of all three.

If you ever make it to the wilds of Pennsyltucky, stop in and make your own call.

 

I don't mean to beat a dead horse but this offer is extended to all members of the forum if you're interested. I might even have some songs about pussy!

[RichP714 3,163]

 

 

..... I might even have some songs about pussy!

 

Didn't know you liked 2 Live Crew Steve --

[Radioeng2 33]

 

 

 

..... I might even have some songs about pussy!

 

Didn't know you liked 2 Live Crew Steve --

 

I'm thinking it's more likely that Steve is a closet Pussycat Dolls fan!!

 

[SteveFord 1,119]

I was actually thinking more along the lines of Frank Zappa...

[Guest yzarc]

Vinyl sounds better because it is the perfect medium for capturing those clicks, pops, hisses, and scratches of our youth. For music though, it fails miserably. Vinyl is like wine, it never lives up to its reputation. Do you know what the difference is between a cheap cd player and a cheap record player? The cd will play something that sounds like the original music, while the record player will demonstrate why it was replaced by the vastly superior cassette. :dd (/smartass)

 

Maybe vinyl has the potential to equal cd with a laser turntable (remember those?) but in most cases it will never compete. Low frequencies alone guaranty that the needle won't stay in the groove. CDs have been recorded with super low sounds, down below 5 hz (the legendary brown note) without any problems with storing the sound or playing it back. It is true that when CDs first came out they sounded harsh, but every year they have improved and the sound has been amazing for years. Who knows how good they will get in the future.

 

The only reason to keep vinyl is to find old recordings that will never be released on cd. It would be nice to de-noise these records and make the files available to a wider audience on cd or hi-bit mp3, but the reality is most will never be converted. I personally had a job recording over 50 hours of old jazz records into digital files, then de-noised them to bring them up to current standards. I thought I hated jazz before I took the job, what a fool I was then. I now detest it. Lullabye of birdland, anyone?

[SteveFord 1,119]

A good record cleaning machine can work wonders for the noise floor. No snaps, pops or crackles with an album in excellent condition.

Both formats have their strengths and weaknesses, neither one is perfect.

[Radioeng2 33]

It should also be pointed out how awful most of the typical vinyl was, especially for the last number of years. They took to recycling the vinyl with junk in it. It got thinner and thinner. You could take many records out of the rapper and just have all kinds of clicks and pops to it. Come to think of it, maybe those years were the 70's version of today's iPod crap!!

 

However, if you ever hear the good stuff, well recorded older releases, a lot of it was excellent. Go back into the 60's and before, and it is noticably better quality on average if seems to me.

 

Gosh, put on some of the stuff coming out by the time I was buying in the 70's and it wasn't just the record quality physically, but some of the audio was really thin and terrible too. I still have everything I ever got. One of the worst I have is a REO Speedwagon for being horrible. The pinkish cover with the hotel maid on the front. Good music, just terrible mastering or something! Listening to it'll cause you to have flash backs to friends cars with 6X9's setting on top of the back deck behind the back seat. Driven to ear bleed levels with Kraco power!!

 

If your hung up on hearing clicks and pops and can't focus on the real music, then it can be a problem. But as Steve says, clean it, have a good stylus thats aligned properly on a good table, and when you spin good stuff you can just groove with the music. I've heard many a side when the only time you could hear a pop or click at all was in the pause between cuts. When your doing a get together and looking for fun music and tending to jump around, its usually a relief feeling when good vinyl goes on and some hard sounding CD gets done. I do listen to much more dits and dahs, but thats because of the amount of music I don't have available on those black discs!!

 

Mark

 

[BillD 239]

I think vinyl went to shit when Columbia started producing the records for others . I belonged to Columbia Record Club, and the stuff I got in the mail was absolute crap if it had the Columbia label on it.

[elgrau 89]

"Vinyl is like wine, it never lives up to its reputation. "

 

Now that's the most untrue statement I've ever heard here! Wine is one of the greatest things God ever invented. The "high" from wine is so superior to beer, for example (yuck! Is it piss or is it beer? :dd ). Beer makes me nervous and "angry"; wine makes me mellow, content. And like hi-fi, the better the wine, the better the high/experience! I totally understand winos....it can even make being broke and living on the street seem cool and ok! :dd

 

As to vinyl: what it has (subtle sound wise) is real and is "there" (A/B one of your favorite CD's with the original record; you will notice something "smooth" and "un-harse" there (extremely subtle tho)). But dollar for dollar I prefer CD's and also for convience, etc.

[elgrau 89]

@Snow

"You know I dont think I have ever agreed with anything you have ever wrote "

 

"Hoping to convince you that reality is usually scoffed at and illusion is usually king, :dd but in the battle for the survival of Western civilization it will be reality and not illusion or delusion that will determine what the future will bring."

 

(from radioliberty.com)

[SteveFord 1,119]

You aren't kidding about wimpy albums. Some of them are so thin that they get bent up and stuck on the VPI vacuum cycle and I have to rotate the stupid thing by hand.

 

[RichP714 3,163]

 

 

 

 

..... I might even have some songs about pussy!

 

Didn't know you liked 2 Live Crew Steve --

 

I'm thinking it's more likely that Steve is a closet Pussycat Dolls fan!!

 

This was what I was talking about.......

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryZEDgYotHw