Bean 384 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) I’m running a Technics SL-B3 TT and need help identifying a cartridge. I don’t want to screw w removing it if I don’t have to. Just trying to make sure I got the loading on my Carver C-1 right. Ive got it hooked up to Phono 1 w the infrasonic filter engaged. Not a clue what loading to use for the cartridge so i think it’s set at the middle which I think is 140?? My system is a hodge lodge of a bunch of things right now. The TT path is as follows TT —> C-1 -> Anthem MRX 500 -> Soundstream D-1 monos -> AV123 ELT525T towers and a Polk MicroPro 2000 sub. The rest of the gear bypasses the C-1 so it’s basixally a phono pre since my Anthem didn’t have a phono input. The Carvers volume is about 50% as Greg said that’s where it’s closest to perfect level wise (or I think he said that sometime lol). At 50% I feel like it’s fine. I’ve got it really low on then Anthem right now and it’s perfect. Listening to my Dads old LP collection! Edited October 17, 2018 by Bean 2
pindrop 330 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Hope you find out what AT it is but it's time for me to get some learnin'. I thought you could switch between the load settings at will until you find what sounds best? Glad I haven't hooked my table up yet...?
Bean 384 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, pindrop said: Hope you find out what AT it is but it's time for me to get some learnin'. I thought you could switch between the load settings at will until you find what sounds best? Glad I haven't hooked my table up yet...? Maybe you can lol...... I haven't tried it since its working and from what I can tell I dont feel I'm "missing" anything...... It sounds DAMMMNED GOOD! I forgot how good OLD Vinyl sounds..... This is the first time I've hooked this up in about 2 years since I didnt have a phono pre....... I just felt like playing with this as my Tube Console will be mated with this TT later when I get it recapped and modded to accept a external TT (rather than the built in one), as well as add a line level input for a chromecast audio....
Daddyjt 9,645 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 When I opened this thread, I was expecting to see something like this: carry on... 1 3
RodH 4,866 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Looks like an AT11E The specific model will be stamped on the top... 1 2
pindrop 330 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 That was quick. So it needs to be at at 47,000?
Bean 384 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Rod H said: Looks like an AT331E Well I dug into my old posts (knew I mentioned it somewhere). Its a AT11E Found that info here...... Wonder if its worth upgrading the cart or headshell or just leave it as is.... the TT works fine but dont want to put a lot of lipstick on a pig of a TT so to speak.... Edited October 17, 2018 by Bean
PDR 1,194 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Heres when your TT was produced and approx what the retail price was when sold new.... https://vintagetechnics.audio/turntables.php
PhilDent 1,974 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 14 hours ago, Daddyjt said: When I opened this thread, I was expecting to see something like this: carry on... Mark, You've got me on pins and needles. What is the cartridge? I thought it was 7.62 x 54r, but the shape is wrong. Inquiring minds want to know. 1
Bean 384 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Posted October 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, PhilDent said: Mark, You've got me on pins and needles. What is the cartridge? I thought it was 7.62 x 54r, but the shape is wrong. Inquiring minds want to know. Its what Mark uses to clean out his ears with instead of cutips ? 1
pindrop 330 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, PDR said: Heres when your TT was produced and approx what the retail price was when sold new.... https://vintagetechnics.audio/turntables.php That's $482.12 in today's dollars, ain't America great!
madmike46 398 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, PhilDent said: Mark, You've got me on pins and needles. What is the cartridge? I thought it was 7.62 x 54r, but the shape is wrong. Inquiring minds want to know. By the look of the radius in the neck of case tells me that it is a Weatherby case, not sure on the caliber though.
Daddyjt 9,645 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 2 hours ago, madmike46 said: By the look of the radius in the neck of case tells me that it is a Weatherby case, not sure on the caliber though. Good eye Mike - it is a .257 Weatherby. Incidentally, the .257 was Roy’s favorite of all the cartridges he engineered. Sorry for the thread hijack @Bean fyi @Sk1Bum 2 1
Bean 384 Posted October 17, 2018 Author Posted October 17, 2018 5 hours ago, PDR said: Heres when your TT was produced and approx what the retail price was when sold new.... https://vintagetechnics.audio/turntables.php That’s pretty cool info! Thanks!
PhilDent 1,974 Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 Thanks for the answer. I was scrutinizing posters of cartridges trying to figure it out, but I wasn't willing to pay for higher rez images to make that possible.
Bean 384 Posted December 8, 2018 Author Posted December 8, 2018 Ok guys, here is what I've got coming in to try. A buddy is giving me a Grado Carbon Cartridge with needle. Here are the specs: Output: 2.5mV at 1kHz Stylus: User replaceable. Fixing: Standard, two screws Cantilever: Carbon Colour: Black/White Tracking Pressure 2-3g Here are the specs of the AT11E for comparison Generating element: dual moving magnet Frequency response: 15-25000Hz Output: 4.8mV Channel balance: 1.5dB Stylus shape: 0.4 x 0.7 mil elliptical Stylus construction: bonded Cantilever: thin wall Tracking force: 1.5 to 2.5g Cartridge weight: 5.5g So I'm wondering what I need to put the loading on the C-1 as, and also if spec wise how this compares to the others. I see differences in the numbers but dont know what that equates to honestly. Once again the Turntable is a Techics SL-B3 and your help appreciated.
RodH 4,866 Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 That cartridge is a rebranded Audio Technica AT-91. Is your C1 stock of has it had the Bill-D treatment? Also, you should consider signing up on Vinyl Engine to access a wealth of turntable and cartridge information! https://www.vinylengine.com/library/audio-technica/at91.shtml 2
Bean 384 Posted December 8, 2018 Author Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) It’s stock. Haven’t got to mods yet. And if I'm looking at this right it might be worse than what I have now... AT11E Frequency response: 15-25000Hz Output: 4.8mV Channel balance: 1.5dB Stylus shape: 0.4 x 0.7 mil elliptical Cantilever: thin wall Tracking force: 1.5 to 2.5g Cartridge weight: 5.5g Replacement stylus assembly: ATS11E (green) Carbon Frequency response: 20 to 20,000Hz Output voltage: 3.5mV Channel balance: within 2.5dB Stylus: 0.6 mil Cantilever: carbon Tracking force: 1.5 to 2.5g Weight: 5.0g Replacement stylus: ATN-91 Edited December 8, 2018 by Bean
RodH 4,866 Posted December 9, 2018 Posted December 9, 2018 Stop looking at specs and listen to it. Set the preamp at the highest capacitance available.
Bean 384 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Posted December 9, 2018 44 minutes ago, Rod H said: Stop looking at specs and listen to it. Set the preamp at the highest capacitance available. I will once it arrives :).
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