PMAT 2,038 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Ok I am running with the theme here. A friend at work had these in his garage and brought them to me as a gift at work. They need some love as well. Overall they are in good shape. I need to learn how to do woofer surrounds myself. So here goes.
PMAT 2,038 Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 Are these the mids that you can heat up? Also, how thick is this veneer?
Gene C 1,748 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Are these the mids that you can heat up? Why would you want to do that?
RodH 4,866 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 I find after 14 beers or so, the 6's start looking pretty dang good! 1
PMAT 2,038 Posted October 8, 2014 Author Posted October 8, 2014 Are these the mids that you can heat up? Why would you want to do that? Yes, sounds silly but I read somewhere that one of these dome mids gets brittle and a warming will make them supple again. ???? Hell I don't know, that's why I asked. Are you a little teste?
Gene C 1,748 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Are these the mids that you can heat up? Why would you want to do that? Yes, sounds silly but I read somewhere that one of these dome mids gets brittle and a warming will make them supple again. ???? Hell I don't know, that's why I asked. Are you a little teste? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/teste Am I a witness? Yes, witness to a potential catastrophe or train wreck whatever you want to call it. The heat will make the domes age faster, so if they are already brittle...your going to fuck them up even more. Use liquid silicone or vinyl conditioner, even heard of some people using automotive liquid wax.
CT-Seven 764 Posted October 8, 2014 Posted October 8, 2014 Little testes? Little testes...cles? Cool find PMAT, good co-workers you have there
fill35U 1,846 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Lol, you know I'm jealous, Paul! Everybody else has big Infinity's coming out of the woodwork, and they're scarce near me... With all the skilled and experienced refoamers on this site, I'm sure they'll help you get those woofers straight in no time!
Belvedere2 232 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Lol, you know I'm jealous, Paul! Everybody else has big Infinity's coming out of the woodwork, and they're scarce near me... With all the skilled and experienced refoamers on this site, I'm sure they'll help you get those woofers straight in no time! If they're scarce find em and ship em. Or take a road trip.
Daddyjt 9,612 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Are these the mids that you can heat up? Why would you want to do that? Yes, sounds silly but I read somewhere that one of these dome mids gets brittle and a warming will make them supple again. ???? Hell I don't know, that's why I asked. Are you a little teste? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/teste Am I a witness? Yes, witness to a potential catastrophe or train wreck whatever you want to call it. The heat will make the domes age faster, so if they are already brittle...your going to phuk them up even more. Use liquid silicone or vinyl conditioner, even heard of some people using automotive liquid wax. I heated one of mine, but only because it was dented. Gene is right - avoid heating if possible. I used a thin coat of leather conditioner after I heated mine.
Daddyjt 9,612 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Lol, you know I'm jealous, Paul! Everybody else has big Infinity's coming out of the woodwork, and they're scarce near me... With all the skilled and experienced refoamers on this site, I'm sure they'll help you get those woofers straight in no time! If they're scarce find em and ship em. Or take a road trip. +1 for ROAD TRIP! 8 hour round trip drive for my first pair of Kappa 9s, and 10 hour round trip for the ALIIIs... WAY cheaper than shipping, and WAY safer:-)
HappyTrails 498 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Also, how thick is this veneer? Are you asking how thick because you want to sand or replace?
PMAT 2,038 Posted October 9, 2014 Author Posted October 9, 2014 Yes, I want to sand the tops. Some are too thin.
Bean 384 Posted October 9, 2014 Posted October 9, 2014 Lol, you know I'm jealous, Paul! Everybody else has big Infinity's coming out of the woodwork, and they're scarce near me... With all the skilled and experienced refoamers on this site, I'm sure they'll help you get those woofers straight in no time! If they're scarce find em and ship em. Or take a road trip. +1 for ROAD TRIP! 8 hour round trip drive for my first pair of Kappa 9s, and 10 hour round trip for the ALIIIs... WAY cheaper than shipping, and WAY safer:-) LOL... I've got you beat on this one Mark.... 18+ hour roadtrip to pickup my RS-II's in Georgia... And like your trip, totally worth it!
HappyTrails 498 Posted October 10, 2014 Posted October 10, 2014 Yes, I want to sand the tops. Some are too thin. No to sanding with anything that resembles course grit. You may have some luck steam ironing the veneer to remove, but hard to match the cabinet IMO when replacing. You might try rubbing the finish 00 to 0000 steel wool then using a oil similar to Danish Oil You'd either have to luck up and match the color or do the whole cab's Not sure how well this might work on worn veneer such as that but I used Howards on all my Infinity's throughout the years and it keeps them looking new. It might be that multiple rub downs with Howards will restore things?
Gene C 1,748 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Well Rat's all done with his, when are you going to be done with your speakers PMAT? How's it coming along?
PMAT 2,038 Posted October 11, 2014 Author Posted October 11, 2014 Just starting Gene. I started sanding the top of one with 220 and the veneer is pretty thick. It went well. The other one has more top damage but I think I can take oak shavings from another piece of wood I have and fill the dents and gouges. I will determine that in the morning. I need to order the new surrounds. Are there quality differences between vendors? Also, the factory installed one of the tweeters a little cock-eyed. Stuff like that drives me crazy so I may fill the holes and re-align. I'm going to refinish the surface, not recondition, I believe. The finish has yellowed. When I sanded the color looks better to me. The cabinets are well made in general. Judging from driver quality, crossover components and box construction, I'd say these were bargains when new. I know these were not top-of-the -line as RS 6's. I'm also on a nice fastener kick so I think I will replace all the driver screws as they all have a little rust. 1
Gene C 1,748 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Welcome to the forum PMAT! We do like pictures with work in progress projects! Check with Ratamahatta, I would go with the same vendor he bought from on his re-foam job. 1
kve777 6,888 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Lol, you know I'm jealous, Paul! Everybody else has big Infinity's coming out of the woodwork, and they're scarce near me... With all the skilled and experienced refoamers on this site, I'm sure they'll help you get those woofers straight in no time! How far are THESE from you?
Bean 384 Posted October 11, 2014 Posted October 11, 2014 Lol, you know I'm jealous, Paul! Everybody else has big Infinity's coming out of the woodwork, and they're scarce near me... With all the skilled and experienced refoamers on this site, I'm sure they'll help you get those woofers straight in no time! How far are THESE from you? Hey man, wheres the bubble wrap?
Ratamahatta 437 Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Mine were worse than that you will do fine. I got my foam from these guys, they have always taken care of me. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Speaker-Tek-Speaker-Foam-Woofer-Repair-Kit-for-Infinity-RS-6B-/150686600939?pt=US_Speaker_Parts_Components&hash=item23159f0eeb There are some real junk surrounds out there, they are the cheapest ones on e-bay, and they use Elmer's glue. I got the veneers here http://www.ebay.com/itm/ONE-RED-OAK-Veneer-Sheet-12-x-12-1-20-OR-050-inch-40-years-old-NOS-/390948831526? just in case you cant salvage yours. Another thought I had was just to cut this http://www.ebay.com/itm/360835410670?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT to the same shape of the top if I could not get the veneer to work. With a little work I am sure they will turn out great.
PMAT 2,038 Posted October 12, 2014 Author Posted October 12, 2014 Crapola, I thought a simple refoam would do. Noooooooo Waaaaaay. I pulled the drivers out of the free(!) 6's and low and behold the woofers are different. One is way wimpy. One is pretty nice. The one on the left is half the weight and cheaply built. So I find my 6B woofers and they are no clear, they are black. They are nicer like the one but smaller in diameter. so I investigated the crossovers and the 6 and 6b are different. OK, expected. The binding posts are clearly inferior on the 6b's Dammmmit! Ok so I hit the net to find the proper driver and thats not so easy. Crappola!
Daddyjt 9,612 Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Call Michael Marks. He's "Mr Infinity" - if he doesn't have any lying around, or know where to get them, you're probably going to have to just troll ebay for a while. You may consider "donor" speakers too - a set with trashed Polydomes and/or emits, and just harvest the drivers... This is an ad for polydome repair, but it's got Michael's contact info... http://www.ebay.com/itm/INFINITY-Kappa-6-7-8-9-PolyDome-Driver-REPAIR-Service-I-Can-Fix-These-/281343038918?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item41815a15c6 Good luck! 1
kve777 6,888 Posted October 12, 2014 Posted October 12, 2014 Since they are not exactly what you want. Part them out in eBay and put the money towards some speakers you really want. Why restore speakers that don't suit you?
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