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@davidc Thanks for the information and looking out for me. Pittsburg would be about a 10 hour round trip and the D-9's were a 2 hour round trip. I am keeping my eyes open because you have tweaked my curiosity. And I know if I don't like the D9's, I can turn them pretty quick like most CV's. The main thought while purchasing these was to have them to sell together with a receiver or amp and preamp. I have friends at work that are learning about Carver and the sound it produces so I need complete systems ready for that opportunity. In the meantime I am listening to everything I buy and deciding if a set of speakers are worth keeping. I am finding out that not many speakers can satisfy the ears when listening to many genre's of music. One of these days there may be a set of VMPS's in the house when I find them closer to home. Or if I can get a Suburban full of Carver gear along with them on a road trip.