Ar9Jim 6,503 Posted February 19, 2024 Posted February 19, 2024 (edited) Hello, We have been offering black amplifier covers for tube amps and customers like them. Obviously tube amps are not stackable and dusting them is not so simple. There was an Email asking if we had covers for the vintage M-500. We are not sure that a cover for vintage SS amps that are stackable is worth the effort. What says TCS focus group? Any suspected interest in a cover for M1.0t or M500 with the vintage CARVER logo and model # embroidered on the front? Edited February 19, 2024 by Ar9Jim 2
Will Meyer 2,330 Posted February 19, 2024 Posted February 19, 2024 My thoughts... On a tube amp, they make some sense, but the other Carver amps (maybe with the exception of the M-400), they are often stacked. I have an M-1.0t, M-0.5t, M-500t, and several of the TFMs; I can see any application from my perspective. I couldn't use them even if I wanted as the amps are always stacked. Does anone stack an M-400? There may be an application there. 2
Community Admin AndrewJohn 9,517 Posted February 19, 2024 Community Admin Posted February 19, 2024 What about if the approach is "by platform"..., meaning, the footprint of these amps is close, right? (I'm not going and measuring mine at the moment..., but if the length and width is fairly standard, and the height, perhaps, for manufacturing simplicity, the design is 1x, 2x, or 3x height? Yes, I know the m500 is a tad taller, but may be close enough? What I'm thinking, @Ar9Jim, is if you made a standard cover option for SS gear, and sell it for 1-component, 2-component, or 3-component heights. Then put the Carver logo on the front, centered. Let buyers choose based on how tall their stack is in terms of the number of components high, they have in their stack. Just in general, though, for me, my rack is pretty tight, I couldn't slip them off and on easily. However, for anyone that has their stack on top of a piece of furniture, like, say a sideboard or table or?, they could easily cover and uncover their stack. ...just a thought, on how to make this simple, so you don't have to create a cover unique to each SS amp made. ...the issues? I see: 1. the m500 is slightly taller, as noted above. 2. the m500 has optional handles, changing the width - I would ignore this... 3. Some of the TFM amps (the 55 and 35, have optional handles affecting width. 4. Some components, like the SD/A 390t also have optional handles. 5. Some of the black faced components are taller than amps, e.g., a Tape Deck, 6. Some components have different depths, e.g., the SD/A 490t - easily hidden, so not really an issue. If volume (clarifying: the number of units!, not the audio volume LoL) is low, none of these would prevent a standardized amp cover from meeting the needs of a lot of amp owners. Worthless information, I'm sure - just a few thoughts worth absolutely nothing. 4
Nahash5150 10,353 Posted February 19, 2024 Posted February 19, 2024 What they often need is a new paint job. 4 1 1
PrISM 148 Posted February 20, 2024 Posted February 20, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Nahash5150 said: What they often need is a new paint job. Literally what I was thinking. Had mine powder coated black and they look great. Edited February 20, 2024 by PrISM 5 1
Ar9Jim 6,503 Posted February 20, 2024 Author Posted February 20, 2024 Excellent feedback. Thanks guys. It's great to have a group of people to bounce ideas around with. We are a small company and the multiple points of view at TCS are appreciated. Your thoughts and opinions are similar to the focus groups leveraged in larger companies. Thank for sharing your thoughts as always. 2
stereo_dog 767 Posted February 20, 2024 Posted February 20, 2024 I personally like looking at my amps, naked, out in the open (the amps, that is). My wife, on the other hand, would probably be all for covering them up when not in use. 2
Ar9Jim 6,503 Posted February 20, 2024 Author Posted February 20, 2024 I don't stop listening long enough to need an amp cover, personally. 3
BobTFM35 2,400 Posted February 20, 2024 Posted February 20, 2024 I'm all for supporting the efforts of a person providing a service with a product that I feel protects my investment during the periods between use. 4
3M_Audio 1,647 Posted February 20, 2024 Posted February 20, 2024 I'd be interested in covers assuming reasonable pricing. In my mind, they wouldn't need to be anything fancy. Just a light cloth shield (that's washable) to keep dust at bay. Up here in the northeast it's not uncommon for homes to have forced hot-air heating. No matter how many filters are installed, it seems dust gets evenly distributed everywhere. And it's worse if you have pets. And regarding stacking, I'm re-thinking that. I have always stacked/racked my equipment - probably a holdover from my radio/recording studio days, but I keep thinking about a 2" floating walnut or cherry shelf where I could see/display the pieces. I think it would look striking. So a cover for the amp(s) and preamp would be a nice-to-have. 3
denniswilson 232 Posted February 20, 2024 Posted February 20, 2024 I have each of my Carver amps and preamps on individual shelves of my Sonus racks. They are not stacked. I like the idea of having component covers for my C-1, C-16, M1.0t, TFM-55 with a Carver logo embossed on the front....at an affordable price 😄 2
Community Admin AndrewJohn 9,517 Posted February 20, 2024 Community Admin Posted February 20, 2024 2 hours ago, 3M_Audio said: they wouldn't need to be anything fancy. Just a light cloth shield (that's washable) to keep dust at bay. Great idea. some simple percale, flannel, or even terry or light material (like what bed sheets are made of, for the top, sides, and back of the cover. The front might be something more interesting like quilted or? to dress up the background of the Bob Carver logo. ...in thinking about this - the back needs some flexibility stretch or elasticity, to deal with all the cabling and rats-nests we have acrued over the years. 2
RPA-1 Man 613 Posted February 21, 2024 Posted February 21, 2024 I think it's a great idea but I like looking at my M500t even when it's not being used. Can't get enough of the big meters. 😀 2
kve777 6,807 Posted February 21, 2024 Posted February 21, 2024 I've used those covers on my tube amps. I don't like them. They start smoking after just a few minutes... What? Off when you use the amps? Never Mind! 1 3
3M_Audio 1,647 Posted February 21, 2024 Posted February 21, 2024 19 hours ago, AndrewJohn said: Great idea. some simple percale, flannel, or even terry or light material (like what bed sheets are made of, for the top, sides, and back of the cover. The front might be something more interesting like quilted or? to dress up the background of the Bob Carver logo. ...in thinking about this - the back needs some flexibility stretch or elasticity, to deal with all the cabling and rats-nests we have acrued over the years. It would have to be some material that doesn't shed any lint or particulates on its own. I'm thinking something like a black, thick Tyvek? 2
Ar9Jim 6,503 Posted February 21, 2024 Author Posted February 21, 2024 (edited) 11 hours ago, kve777 said: I've used those covers on my tube amps. I don't like them. They start smoking after just a few minutes... What? Off when you use the amps? Never Mind! What? They didn't use Nomex? A good cover should provide protection from house fires.😊 Edited February 21, 2024 by Ar9Jim 3
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