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Aside from a few notes that anyone could have put together, I couldn't hear any other similarities that can be concluded as having been lifted intentionally or unconsciously by Page and Plant from that song. Jury verdicts are as unpredictable as the weather. And as sound and music appreciation is one very subjective endeavor influenced by personal tastes, good or bad memories related to the song, and any other factor that would prevent a jury from making an impartial decision, I submit that the two songs subject of the litigation be fed to a super computer that will then decide if one song is a almost a xerox copy of the other. The computer will make a note for note comparison not influenced by human frailties like some grudge against one band and sympathy for the other or some hidden agendas. On the other hand, and not meaning to offend the singer and song's fans, listen closely to Chris Rea's Road to Hell and see how closely it sounds like Hotel California in some sections and like The Boxtops' The Letter in other parts. Even the feint piano notes in the intro is a note for note playing of a traditional piano piece entitled "Love and Devotion". Give it a listen just for kicks and have your similarly subjective verdict..

If you could resist the urge to position your Polks 6 or 8 feet apart, you'll be good with sonic holography or simply SH as most folks here reverently call it. Three feet(or less) will do wonders. And then you'll be hooked for at least the next 30 years! Welcome to the place to be!

Excellent catch there, Kevin. The drivers look like they'll last for another twenty years. My very first decent speakers were a pair of JBL L-166's which I bought on sale at Pacific Stereo in San Francisco back in '76. It took me a long time doing A/B comparison but ultimately picked them over the 901's. Coincidentally, my first born's nickname is JB but prefers to be called Jon now that he's older. Still have the JBL's, probably for life as I'm a sentimental guy.

My one and only jazz cd. Bought it in vinyl, in cd, and in remastered cd. It's so good I listen to a track or two everyday.

The Fab Four never sounded this good, even in those MO FI vinyls. Too bad John and George didn't hear themselves this good on vinyl/cd's.

I know not too many of you will enjoy this type of music but for an entertaining display of sonic holography in all its glory, it's worth a listen.

Welcome to the place to be, bro! Pretty soon, you'll find yourself spending more time posting/reading than listening to your gear.

Thanks for the video, loner_t. "Stairway To Heaven" has always been my favorite Led Zep song and it led me to an on-and-off-on again fascination with their music. Being a baby-boomer fed with 50's pop and a short time later, with the Fab Four's non-stop hits, it took me a while to appreciate Jimmy Page and Robert Plant's genius. Now, I'm a believer! Definitely, my vote goes for "Stairway.." as the best Led Zep song ever. It is arguably the best rock song ever,imho.

Welcome, 4x4! The C-9 will bring magic to ANY system, even in a small room. Just remember to keep your speakers no more than three feet apart and away from back and side walls. More importantly, stay put on your chair while listening or the 3D effect goes away. You'll get used to listening like a statue after a while! Sonic holography is for serious listening. You can't dance to it!

Welcome to the greatest audio site where most persuasive enablers congregate! Be prepared to take the path from the basic cdp/tt>preamp>amp>speakers system to increasingly becoming complicated and expensive gear like most people here have gone through. It's an abyss from which very few are able to escape with their wallets still in their pockets! Just kidding!! I'm only being 90% truthful.

Welcome back, Papajoe!

Welcome to the Blackhole, CKJ! It's so much fun in the Site that no one wants to escape. Now that you've crossed the Singularity, enablers like Gene C. will further torment you with OCCD to which there is no antidote as you will soon find out. But worry not as you have lots of company. Have fun!

+1 here, AR9Jim. Except that I set my XO point at 200hz, a bit higher than stock XO point which I presume is good for the ribbons. I'm running my AL-III+/SF 200x5 bi-amped with a Rane AC22B with the passive XO for the HF intact. In addition to what AR9Jim is saying, this arrangement gives one the choice of using SH only on the mid- and high frequencies, thus avoiding the apparent boost of low frequencies esp. with the early C-4000. Both these ideas I remember picking up from the late BillD's comments on biamping. He didn't really elaborate on them but what I read was enough for me. I proceeded with the "partial" biamping which involved nothing but clipping and resoldering the woofer wire directly to the binding post. Anyone can put together a twitter and a woofer in a box and come up with a speaker but design a proper crossover? Not easy. So why discard an XO designed by Bob Carver?

My first reaction in seeing the brown envelope was "Did I order something from Amazon?" No, it's The Discs!! Thank you very much, Mark! Like all the others, I appreciate the time and effort(and not a few greens) that you put into the project. I've gone through Disc 1 but in much lower volume but could tell that each track was special in its own sonic way. To be honest, with the few obvious exceptions, I've never heard of most of the artists. But neither did I know of the Beatles til I heard "Love Me Do" on the radio in '63 so there's always this first listen which can lead to lifetime attraction.Tomorrow's gonna be different as I intend to listen to both discs in normal (read loud) levels. Let's not forget all the folks who unselfishly shared with us songs that they knew sound amazing. Thank you again, Mark and thanks to every one who contributed to this collection. You guys just furthered my music education.

2 JBL L-166 2 Realistic Minimus 7 1 NHT Super One 2 NHT Super Zero 2 Cerwin Vega D-2 2 Bose 10.2 1 a/d/s PB 1500 subwoofer with C-1500 Bass System Control 2 Dahlquist DQ-30i 4 Dahlquist DQ-10 1 Dahlquist DQ-1W subwoofer 2 Vandersteen 2CE Sigs 2 Carver AL-III+ 2 Pioneer SP-BS22-LR 1 Sunfire True Subwoofer MK II

Let's see....... I listened to "Limited Gold Edition In The Digital Mood - Glenn Miller Orchestra" with Dave Grusin, Mel Torme and other top-notch musicians. I'd say its the best modern, stereo Miller recording I've ever heard and is faithful to the original arrangements so no lengthy improvs there. A double "10" in my books. Then to Rush's "Sector 2", followed by "Barcelona", Freddie Mercury's last recording. The one CD that never ceases to amaze me is The Band's re-mastered "Greatest Hits". They sound like they are there with you, playing for you. And the bass, OMG, it's just so powerful and robust, yet not overwhelming. If only The Beatles were recorded with a louder bottom end...One of my secret wishes is for a re-mix of The Beatles' catalog but what is there to remix when they only recorded in two-eight tracks? But then their "Love" CD showed that it can be done. Nothing against Norm Smith and Geoff Emerick. They were simply limited by what they had on hand, EMI's state of the art equipment, British-style and a very young Geoff had to sound different to cater to the Fab Four's LSD-driven new tastes. Enjoy the sound, er, the music....

Five pairs currently occupy a large chunk of our bedroom and like some members, I'm lucky to have a wife who sees nothing wrong with me making our room look like a stereo store. Three pairs are currently set up and I consider them all my favorites. On the left hand side of my junk yard is a pair of Dahlquist DQ-10s, to the right is a pair of Vandersteen 2CE Signatures, and on dead center is a pair of bi-amped AL-III+es. All of them are supported on the low end by a Sunfire MK II. A lot of reviews and praises have been written about the DQ-10 and all of it it deserves. SH has never been wider and deeper and classical piano pieces have never been(in my own experience) so natural and life-like(w/o SH) as with the 10s. I consider them one of my best buys ever. Surprisingly, the AL-IIIs needed a lot of help before I was happy with their sound but that's another story. For a long time, the Vandys were the least played pair but this changed when I got an M-4.0t which truly made them sound like never before. They now simply sound freaking good. The other two pairs are another pair of 10s and a pair of JBL L-166, my very first decent hi-fi speakers and sentimental favs. Ok, let's be democratic and inclusive-these five pairs are all favorites! But I would say in all candor that although these speakers sound superb on their own, their sound(to my ears) was vastly improved by the addition of one hell of a trio of procs, all of them made by dbx: an SNR 1, a 120x-ds, and a 4bx. I know a lot of folks don't like their sound "processed" but used in moderation, those three bring a detectable, not imagined improvement and, more accurately, impact to the sound, again according to my tinnitus-infested old ears/brains.

At $96 for the pair at Amazon right now, the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR is worth your consideration, if I may humbly suggest. Check out customers' comments on the site and a few posts on our own site and you might just consider to give them a listen. If you want to hear them and can't wait, you can call your local BestBuy and ask them to match Amazon's price. If you're not happy and can't live with them lowly Pioneers, you know what to do but keep an open mind and allow them a few days to burn in. Now, if it were me who'll be spending the $300 you're saving if you decide to keep them, I'd seriously search for an M-4.0t or a TFM 4.0. But I'll use it on my MAIN speakers as either amp is that good. Just another suggestion to mess up your mind!!

I first became acutely aware of sibilance in recordings with Al Stewart's "Year of the Cat".