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Every month its the same old cycle. The products "lift a veil" and the "chocolate" even runs from power cords. This is exactly the reason we offer the Carver Amp Challenge money back guaranty. Until you hear the product in your system you have no idea its true musical value. A person can buy the media product of the month, but what they really want, is a product they enjoy living with. Who can the customer believe and trust? Using their own ears, listening to their own speakers, is the only way, imho.. If a company won't let you compare to others or to what you currently own, at home without restocking fees, you might ask why? This customer focused approach works great for Bob Carver customers. We love competing on a level playing field.

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This is great AJ ! Thank you for helping the gentlemen. The misinformation and speculation about Bob and Bob Carver Company is prevalent today. We appreciate those of you who act as checks and balances on misinformation. The information you get here on the Carver site is current and not full of the hearsay and falsehoods common on-line. Please feel free to copy/paste my contact information in response to any on-line thread you suspect is misinformation. Your information comes from Bob and myself directly. No-one on earth, knows more about the company than those of you who follow the Carver site. No need for stress. I'm happy to provide current information. Thank you all. Enjoy the music! Jim Clark CEO Bob Carver Company jim@bobcarvercompany.com 815 985 3557

Very cool topic, Will. The directionality of subwoofers is interesting. The first info I had read was in the AR9 owners manual from 79'. It said the point of non-directionality was 200Hz that allowed bass drivers placement on the sides of the enclosers. The drivers were symmetrical right and left, and the 200Hz crossover point to the woofers worked. In more recent years, when using single subwoofers located in non-symmetrical areas, the 200Hz crossover point has proven too high. Some harmonics produced seem to be above 200Hz and directionality still becomes an issue. In most recent times, I view the sub from the bottom up.. If the mains produce well and only roll off below say 50 Hz, I'll start blending the sub with a low pass filter of 50Hz and tweak from there. In the current set-up the low pass filter on the sub is at 40Hz, using the sub to fill the bottom where the mains roll-off. The sub covers only a narrow bandwidth Some vintage music has almost no content down that low. Using a sub as a supplement to fill in the bottom of the mains, is usually way below directionality comes into play and a single sub may sufficient in many room areas. If using a sub above 150Hz or so, placement and having 2 in symmetrical positions becomes of increasing benefit. It's a lot of fun finding that blend, when the subwoofer is invisible and supplements the mains just right.

On the Ryno Rax is the RAM 285. Some of the features of the RAM 285 are: 1) 4 pairs of Viborg speaker binding post for 8 or 4 ohm loads with selectable feedback loops for identical frequency response regardless of load. 2) 350VA power transformer. 3) DC restorer circuits uses vacuum tubes for fastest response time. 4) CNC Machined 6mm (.236) thick aluminum plate chassis with anodized finish. 5) Buffered left and right RCA subwoofer outputs on rear panel. 6) Transformers are housed separately from the amplifier section for lowest noise. More details are coming. Production is in full swing. Amps are down to a few week from being available. Bob Carver and some friends will be at the factory for some testing and listening with the 285.

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Thank you! I sent a nice email asking for this situation to be corrected and included the press release/email from last year, just in case it was missed. Hopeful that a simple letter will resolve the issue.

It's the endless complications that make changing the business model to 'direct to consumer', not only good for customer value, but almost a necessity for companies to have control of their destiny. Many dealers are reputable and honest. Many are hardworking people trapped in a paradigm shift and struggling for survival. Many would sell their sister at a discount. Bait and switch is sad. I just put a pair of 350s that are not available, in a shopping cart, and would have had payment collected, only to be steered toward another brand, after the money has been spent. That's a problem we will correct.

Good point about separating of service from sales. Imagine a 50/50 split between the dealer and the manufacturer, and the manufacturer absorbed the cost of design and build of the unit. How much of the customers money is going into the product they will receive? Not enough, imho.. Generally 20% is in the actual product. 5X cost at retail. Many customers, that have enough money to buy quality audio products, didn't get wealthy spending frivolously. They often appreciate the increased value selling direct can deliver.

This is a press release and update for dealers and reps from over a year ago (3-23-22). USA Tube Audio continues to run ads for our products and pulls a 'bait and switch', when customers call with interest in our products. Their latest ad was placed just last month, in spite of not having access to the products they are advertising. Guess we should be flattered that they wish to capitalize on leveraging the brand name alone. Bob Carver Company is the only source for Bob Carver products, period. https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisa20gf-bob-carver-350-mono-amps-0-financing-3-years-tube March 3, 2022 Dear Bob Carver Representatives and Dealers: Continuing rapid changes in our business climate have resulted in a review of our longstanding business model. Major changes to our operating model are in the works now. Resulting from this analysis, we will begin selling directly to consumers only. Our new web site will reflect this. We will be filling the existing back orders as soon as possible. We understand if you prefer a cancellation. We apologize for the shipping delays. We expect to have the existing back-orders filled in the next 30 days. It has been a pleasure collaborating with you. We appreciate your continued friendship and well wishes as Bob Carver launches an on-line store, coming soon. We wish everyone continued success as the market continues to evolve. We hope you can understand that changes were necessitated to fulfill Bob’s vision and to remain a healthy and vibrant organization in these modern and ever-changing times. Sincerely, Jim Clark Director of Operations Bob Carver, LLC jim@bobcarver.com 815-985-3557 Share this entry

This is a great question that is asked often. There are many reasons that we would like to share. 1) Value added processes - Customer value. When you get down to the fundamentals, a happy customer is our goal. It's the customers money being exchanged. The customers deserve value regardless of income level. 2) The dealer/rep based model is extremely expensive. Often when you buy a product from a dealer, the dealer receives up to 1/2 of the retail price. In other words, less than 1/2 of the retail price goes into producing the product you are receiving . 3) Few dealers offer service. The service falls on the manufacturer. The support once offered by dealers is mostly history, reducing the value added by their part of the process. 4) Some dealers undercut others with their margins, effectively devaluing the product. This undercutting results in a race to the bottom. Some on-line dealers undercut the brick and mortar using the lower overhead advantage. 5) The top 3 dealers that sold 80% of the product, were all on-line dealers, not brick and mortar. I was one of them (although Carver dedicated), and closed my store when accepting this position with Bob Carver. We can market our products on-line ourselves. 6) The customer experiencing our products in their home, often compared to others of higher cost, is an advantage for Bob's designs. Bob knows how to design what sounds good, and designs for synergy with a wide range of products. Head to head we are tough to beat. Selling direct is in our favor. In the customers home, as part of their system, is the true test for an audio products actual value to the customer. Summary: We can spend considerably more money building excellent products, that offer much greater value to the customer. Leveraging technology throughout the entire process that is Bob Carver Company, provides for excellent products at about 1/2 the price of the obsolete rep and dealer networks. The customer wins and the company wins. It's better to hear audio gear at home. This is why we sell direct. It provides for much greater customer value and also provides more control of our destiny. It may be worth considering the business models of companies you buy from. Is the dealer adding 50% to the value of your purchase, or should you look at who sells direct and is possibly putting that 50% into the product you receive? Just a thought in a fast changing market. Jim Clark Director of Operations Bob Carver Company.

A 15 amp circuit can deliver about 1800 watts and a 20 amp is good for 2400 watts. There are losses in the device connected that further reduce the possible output. Divide this by the number of channels and that's the theoretical limit of continuous power into resistive loads. Of course demanding full power, from all channels at a static 8 or 4 ohm load at the same time, doesn't happen in the application of audio driving dynamic speaker loads with an impedance curve from 2 to 30 ohms. Resistive load test won't show the ability of an amp to increase voltage swing in response to the dynamic, variable impedance of a loudspeaker loud. Bob test one channel at a time, measuring the voltage output at the point of clipping using the standard 1KHz sine wave. The voltage at clipping, squared, divided by 8 or 4 ohm load is the power output. Dynamic power is different. When measuring, while driving actual speaker loads, lighter weight designs are possible without clipping at their rated output. This application driven approach has enabled great sound in Bobs lighter weight designs, that more people could afford without sacrificing musical performance. Wide voltage swings and dynamic power is what sounds good, current needs to be enough.

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Unfortunately audiophile common sense is the product of audiophile engineering, and marketing of twisted takes on real science and engineering. The term "Aerospace Grade Audio" used in some of our marketing is a huge contrast to Audiophile Grade Audio, that mostly overcharges consumers for some mystic science that real engineers laugh at.

Might sound better, but you know how people are.

Bob did test on MQA. Found some Sonic Holography in the signal processing.